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I believe it changed with the unification of the various moth classes around the world to create the truly international class.

Interesting stats, Chris.

In terms of the movement of cvrda handicaps, I'd imagine that Pat has the most useful information, as it always seems to be her laptop out at events, crunching the numbers.

Hi Nessa, I've done this for several classes, and I believe Ed has too. The reason we use 3 figure numbers, apart from being stuck in the past, is that they don't translate all that well. Many classes have got quicker over the years, with better sails, foils, rigs hulls, but because almost everythin...

I'm not sure a different rig would have made much difference. There were already much better cut sails out there than the strange baggy nylon affairs, but most boats still seemed to have those. So putting a different mast and sail on, even in the early days may have simply gone unnoticed by the majo...

It killed many, directly or indirectly, and prevented the start of others. The Minisail is a great example of the former, numbers hit by the Laser, build issues and CA strife finish it off. The Pisces, as seen in Dinghy Recognition on Facebook recently, an example of the latter. Bonito, Aquabat, bot...

Rod's website is, of course, still going strong 9 years later. Nice bit about Classic Moths on the top, currently.

The Leader is a scaled down Wayfarer, that's for sure, but with Gordon Pollard and Small Craft as designers. The story I've heard, which could well be revisionism at its best from what you are finding, is that they had a big hand in the Wayfarer being as it is, and basically didn't want to pay Proct...

Pretty much sums it up, yes. There are advantages to chines, but until then, the UK was very much into round bottomed boats. Look elsewhere, with different waters and wind strengths, and development looked rather different, too. The double chine idea gives a simple way to build an approximately roun...

With only a year or so between the designs, it would be interesting to know when Proctor started work on the lines. Were there any earlier double chine hulls?

According to the Leader guys, there is also the influence of Gordon Pollard and Smallcraft on the design of the Wayfarer.

Or do the names only sound odd because we aren't used to them? After all, Osprey sounds fine, but maybe Peregrine sounds a little strange? Another fine example of a Proctor keelboat, which seems well ahead of its time, looking at the current sports boat scene.

Meant to ask - are you going to try and find a Seamew and Seagull as well?

The Laser started life in North America, I believe. I once heard that about 5000 were built before it came across here, but I have no idea if that is correct.

As for discussing it on here, it does remind us how nice our boats are!

These words have been used in the world of boats in various languages for a long, long time. All this discussion boils down to is whether we use historical or current usage, and what current usage is in different parts of the world. What I love about scows in the Fireball or Minisail sense is the st...

The answer to the original problem is surely to simply keep on sailing south?

Not sure about that - she was in one piece when she went in there!