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Megamoth

Post by Nessa » Thu May 28, 2015 5:19 pm

Presumably not allowed, since it is neither old nor lost..
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Re: Megamoth

Post by Rupert » Thu May 28, 2015 7:06 pm

No, but looks fun!
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Re: Megamoth

Post by alan williams » Fri May 29, 2015 11:10 am

But it has no Class Assoc. so could it be defined as a lost Class. Only a few have ever been built so it's practically a one off.
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Re: Megamoth

Post by Rupert » Fri May 29, 2015 11:33 am

Don't we have a 1985 design date cut off for lost classes?

Personally, if I was running a meeting I'd be happy to see the boat, but probably would put a set of brackets round the results and exclude from the main prizes.

Looks to me like a boat that will be happier racing against boats of similar vintage - maybe you should contact the EPS class and see if you can join in. They have a small Open at Whitefriars 1st weekend of July, alongside the Minisails.
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Re: Megamoth

Post by davidh » Fri May 29, 2015 3:12 pm

I'm sorry Nessa, but it isn't the true MegaMoth.... for the simple reason there IS a real MegaMoth - I was with it yesterday, I've pictures but there is an embargo on publishing them.

If you took an Imperium Scow, stretched it out to 23ft loa (with beam remaining in proportion) - build it in FRP, monster rig and L profile foils (that protrude outwards) and there you have it. It is such a clone of the tunnel scow that you have that cheeky double chine at the stern and the 'hump in the middle' sheer line. Now I was expected an MR like mess of dynemma knitting, but you've got more bits of string in an RS 200. My first thoughts were 'YW Scow/Calypso' (Calypso being the big Peter Milne F'ball) but no... it is a mega tunnel scow. If you stood 50m further back, it was only the reference points that told you how big it was...in the pics, if you crop everything else out... well, you'll all see soon!

So Megamoff does indeed live....but I'll second all the other comments that we do want to see it sailing!

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Re: Megamoth

Post by Rupert » Fri May 29, 2015 3:50 pm

Is this boat brand new, David?
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Re: Megamoth

Post by Nigel » Fri May 29, 2015 3:57 pm

Hi Nessa,

Like it! More info please :D

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Re: Megamoth

Post by Nessa » Sun May 31, 2015 10:01 am

http://www.sailingcatamarans.com/index. ... stealth-14

It's a Richard Woods designed Stealth Nigel, beefed up with a monster fat head, fully battened main, must be around 12 sq m sail area. I sailed it again yesterday with a better rudder and the mast more upright, which seemed to get rid of the weather helm issue, but there is still plenty to do - pro grip, toe straps, proper controls all need adding.

It is quite moth like in its handling; tippy, but not too too bad, accelerates quickly and doesn't like turning corners. It also like to spit you out as you attempt a graceful landing. What s good for me is that I can largely keep my legs comfy when hiking so kind to the knees, though there isn't a lot of room under the boom.
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Re: Megamoth

Post by Nigel » Sun May 31, 2015 10:19 am

Thanks Nessa - that explains why googling "megamoth" only turned up info on some computer game and a variety of shark with a big mouth :oops:

Looks a lot of fun (and a bit Battlestar Galactica)

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Re: Megamoth

Post by Rupert » Mon Jun 08, 2015 7:40 pm

Dougal's mega moth is on Sailing Anarchy. Really is a giant Imperium Scow, but with added bits, like foils!
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Re: Megamoth

Post by Max McCarthy » Thu Jun 25, 2015 10:31 am

Nessa, David and all,

Is this what you mean by the Megamoth?

http://youtu.be/fcNT4kL5Vu8

Having had small look at photos, I felt that 'teramoth' might be more appropriate!

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Re: Megamoth

Post by Nigel » Thu Jun 25, 2015 2:27 pm

Thanks Max,

looks a lot of fun :D

Would like to have seen how it tacks and gybes though. They seemed to have missed those in the video :shock:

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Re: Megamoth

Post by Max McCarthy » Thu Jun 25, 2015 4:08 pm

Nigel wrote:Would like to have seen how it tacks and gybes though. They seemed to have missed those in the video :shock:
Yes, it does make you wonder though - is there a reason for that? ;)

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Re: Megamoth

Post by Nigel » Thu Jun 25, 2015 6:10 pm

From my perspective, I would really want to understand how practical it was in an everyday sailing environment before spending the hard earned on one.

I would like to see how the foils are raised and lowered on the go - picked up a hint of a control line to raise them but cannot be sure. Also what the tacking a gybing drills are. Do you have to pull the foils up to tack? Can you do a foiling gybe?

The other thing that would make it far more useable from my perspective would be a lifting keel (like an Orion or a K1). I think that would make a massive difference to usability a club level.

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Re: Megamoth

Post by Max McCarthy » Thu Jun 25, 2015 8:24 pm

Nigel wrote:From my perspective, I would really want to understand how practical it was in an everyday sailing environment before spending the hard earned on one.

I would like to see how the foils are raised and lowered on the go - picked up a hint of a control line to raise them but cannot be sure. Also what the tacking a gybing drills are. Do you have to pull the foils up to tack? Can you do a foiling gybe?

The other thing that would make it far more useable from my perspective would be a lifting keel (like an Orion or a K1). I think that would make a massive difference to usability a club level.
Exactly; although I wouldn't really be in a position to get one anyway (at least not as a student!).

I just admire it from the perspective of people actually going out and doing something rather than just talking of it.

Certainly an interesting concept....
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