Old 505's

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Re: Old 505's

Post by Rupert » Mon Feb 09, 2009 5:38 pm

Is it just me, or are the decks a lot more squared off than in most 505s?
She really is a work of art, though.
Neil would charge £150 for details of where to find a mast...?!
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Re: Old 505's

Post by davidh » Mon Feb 09, 2009 5:45 pm

I don't just want to sail it, would it consider an offer of marriage???????

Rupert - if you can get the side decks that are that shape, they are more comfortable than the fully rounded ones (at least for the helm). You can hike a little harder as it allows the back of the knee joint to come outboard a bit.

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Re: Old 505's

Post by davidh » Mon Feb 09, 2009 5:46 pm

PS...

wouldn't the old Badfinger song be better:

"If you want it, here it is
Come and get it
But you'd better hurry as it's going fast"

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Re: Old 505's

Post by Rupert » Mon Feb 09, 2009 5:48 pm

I can see why, I just hadn't realized they were allowed. Far easier to build, too, I'd have thought.
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Re: Old 505's

Post by Brookesy » Mon Feb 09, 2009 5:50 pm

Sorry , wrong Neil, the owner is Neil Drew, but I think you may be corect in your first assumption.
And yes, the decks are not as rounded as some 505's this was one of three boats built by Spud Rowsell from the layout penned by Phil Morrison, and they were quick I am told, certainly this one has always given a good account for herself at Roadford.
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Re: Old 505's

Post by davidh » Mon Feb 09, 2009 5:57 pm

Ex Merlin sailor Chris Haworth won the 505 Nationals (and did well too in the Worlds I seem to recall) in one of the sister ships to this.

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Re: Old 505's

Post by Nessa » Mon Feb 09, 2009 6:54 pm

It is truly gorgeous. Should anyone feel tempted to buy, I am very available for crewing jaunts!
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Re: Old 505's

Post by davidh » Mon Feb 09, 2009 7:15 pm

nessa,

You're ON. Do I have to pay a signing on fee?

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Re: Old 505's

Post by davidh » Mon Feb 09, 2009 7:29 pm

brooksey

If you've not seen the email already - can you call me please asap - or preferably, sooner.

I may have a punter for you with cash burning a hole in his pocket (no, bummer, not me)

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Re: Old 505's

Post by Rupert » Mon Feb 09, 2009 8:07 pm

Just shows how much better editorial is at selling things than advertizing!
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Re: Old 505's

Post by Michael Brigg » Mon Feb 09, 2009 10:04 pm

Ent228 said:-
I've been browsing a book by Yves-Louis Pinaud, Sailing from start to finnish,
The story of the mast inversion takes you back to the original posting rather neatly. If you take the trouble (and you may need a magnifying glass and a little imagination) to read the text in the pictured book (which is about preparation and fittings) it reads (perhaps) as an absolute perfect set of Classic and Very Rare David Arrrggh!!s (CVRDA's)

Losing the tiller extention and having the boat tack istself back on top of you :evil:

Getting the spinnaker halyard tangled up around the jib pole :oops:

(My favourite) The leeward jib sheet loses its figure of 8 and flys out of its fairlead as you tack! :lol:

Centreplate pop's up on a tack, blocking the crew to leeward, or the lifting rudder pops up in the midst of a knarly reach/run... :mrgreen:

The shackle on the Spinaker head comes undone on the hoist :x

The Spinnaker pole falls off the mast/tack :|

The beauty that obstinately clings to the backside on Brooksey's '5-0 brings up Ed's posting on a boats gender. What are the Callipygian (great word by the way Ed)properties of a wooden Fairy 505? Definately a girl with a French pedigree going all the way back to Ninan de Lenclas, and if David you can find that reference in Byron I'll give you the rest of it (which I assure you is way more descriptive than Toad's panting.)
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Re: Old 505's

Post by davidh » Mon Feb 09, 2009 11:59 pm

Michael,

Now that's a good one - I always thought that this was the usage (non biblical) that roughly translates into "beauty is in the eye of the beholder".

Used by Bryon when he was fighting for the Greeks against the Turks, could also be compared to 'all his geese be swans'.

"Fill High the bowl with Samian wine"

But a good link never the less to the CVRDA -

.....And ships, by thousands, lay below
..he counted them at break of day
And when the sun set, where were they?

You've not been at the N2O again have you?

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Re: Old 505's

Post by Michael Brigg » Tue Feb 10, 2009 12:29 am

Ill confess David I am impressed. You speak to these 505's a language of love.

I love the "Ships by thousands..."
You have me there. Che faro once again

The Ninan De Lenclas I was referring to was the famous French (of course) renaissance intellect, beauty and courtesan described thus by Byron in Don Juan. I know little of his poetry and the quote was given to me by an enthusiast to describe the Spitfire. It seems appropriate here especially in reference to that picture of the Fairy 505 pictured suspended over the dock.

"But there are forms which Age adorns, not wears
And to which Beauty obstinately clings.
For such forms Time to touch forbears
And turns aside his scythe to vulgar things." ...
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Re: Old 505's

Post by bob eastwood » Sat Apr 11, 2009 8:44 pm

hi all,

For many years I owned 5o5 K38. She was built by Chippendales of Warsash in the early fifties. She belonged to a friend of my fathers from the mid sixties then my dad then me from about 85. She truly was a thing of beauty but despite extensive tlc brass screws and old glues were giving up. I didn't dare rig the spinnaker but sailed her regularly until I sold her a few years ago. I sold her to an ex champion ( i think) and she was to be raced on the classic circuit.

Anybody seen her??

I now sail an OK with two years to go to be eligable for the CVDRA.

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Re: Old 505's

Post by davidh » Sat Apr 11, 2009 8:55 pm

Bob,

I'm really interested in the story of k38.

Are you by any chance south coast based? - I'm on the Hamble at Busledon

Do you have any pictures?

can you tell me who you sold the boat too

Will explain the reason for the request

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