Lutin
Lutin
this could be my MOGO boat - the dimensions and brief description I have read vaguely fit. Does anyone know anything more about it?
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Re: Lutin
Lutin....or Lutine?
Havn't heard of Lutin.
But Lutine was (is?) the name of the yacht belonging to Lloyds of London.
Named after the Lutine Bell that hangs at Lloyds.
My father used to occasionally crew Lutine in the 50's, when he wasn't either sailing the Jollyboat...or thrashing an Alfa round the circuits of the South East.
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Havn't heard of Lutin.
But Lutine was (is?) the name of the yacht belonging to Lloyds of London.
Named after the Lutine Bell that hangs at Lloyds.
My father used to occasionally crew Lutine in the 50's, when he wasn't either sailing the Jollyboat...or thrashing an Alfa round the circuits of the South East.
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Re: Lutin
She who must be obeyed has seen the Lutine Bell - father is a Lloyd's name.
No, the Lutin is listed with next to no detail in my Percy Blandford book of dinghies in the known universe. It sort of fits the dimensions of the MOGO and I am clutching at straws!
(and now I have been told off for not putting a capital N on Name
)
No, the Lutin is listed with next to no detail in my Percy Blandford book of dinghies in the known universe. It sort of fits the dimensions of the MOGO and I am clutching at straws!
(and now I have been told off for not putting a capital N on Name
)
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Re: Lutin
Dinghy Recognition by A R Burrett. (1974. Blandford Press. ISBN 0 7137 0680 5). Lists the Lutin (but only in the Further Notes on European Dinghies - with no diagrams of pictures alas) as follows:
LUTIN. A two-man French dinghy with cutaway bow and a very long boom. Hull shallow round bottomed GRP. Rig a Bermudan sloop. LOA 3.88m (12ft 8in). Beam 1.43m. (4ft 8in). Sail area 8.00 sq m. (86 sq ft.)
No mention of a wooden hull. Perhaps Lasertourist can supply more details. The Geosites Dinghy Database French section does not list the Lutin at all.
Regards.
Alan
LUTIN. A two-man French dinghy with cutaway bow and a very long boom. Hull shallow round bottomed GRP. Rig a Bermudan sloop. LOA 3.88m (12ft 8in). Beam 1.43m. (4ft 8in). Sail area 8.00 sq m. (86 sq ft.)
No mention of a wooden hull. Perhaps Lasertourist can supply more details. The Geosites Dinghy Database French section does not list the Lutin at all.
Regards.
Alan
Re: Lutin
I am not yet convinced the hull is wooden. There is a moth next to it also for sale that has been listed as GRP when it might well be plywood. We will see.
Yes, I too am hoping Lasertourist might happen by.
Yes, I too am hoping Lasertourist might happen by.
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Re: Lutin
I know camera angles can be deceptive, but are you sure about the dimensions, using the laser alongside for scale it looks rather like an Aussie International Moth to me similar to the Imperial Scow design of the early seventies.
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Re: Lutin
To be honest, no, I'm not sure. I only know what they told me by email. Given that they said the width was 1.10m, I'm a bit sceptical, because that seems very narrow to me.
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Re: Lutin
I have now been looking at pics of vintage moths and there are a few that sort of resemble this. I think it must be some kind of moth, so where does that leave me in terms of fitting out etc... (a hideously familiar path opens before me, but less well equipped than the previous....)
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Re: Lutin
I'm sure Alan Williams will be along shortly and we'll be able to see if he recognises it, because I think he had an Imperial Scow Moth in his distant past.
They were quick in the right conditions and used a fully battened rig on a needlspar mast or if I remember correctly one I saw was using a homemade mast made from a tv aeriel mast of really small cross section.
They were quick in the right conditions and used a fully battened rig on a needlspar mast or if I remember correctly one I saw was using a homemade mast made from a tv aeriel mast of really small cross section.
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Re: Lutin
Nessa,
nothing for it - you HAVE to go collect, then run a proper, CVRDA approved (ie, has the David C Isaf seal of correctness to 9 decimal places) tape measure over it - then we can make a decision!
But before you do that.... pen to paper time!!
D
nothing for it - you HAVE to go collect, then run a proper, CVRDA approved (ie, has the David C Isaf seal of correctness to 9 decimal places) tape measure over it - then we can make a decision!
But before you do that.... pen to paper time!!
D
David H
Re: Lutin
Sorry, Ive checked out the old moth archives and it is not an Imperium as the shape is not hollowed enough at the bows, but Im still convinced it is a moth. There were so many one off's it will be difficult to positively i.d. it.
Interestingly I found a mention of myself and my Second Nervous Breakdown Moth back in '73 a very aptly named design I remember it was a handfull even in my lean/mean days.
Interestingly I found a mention of myself and my Second Nervous Breakdown Moth back in '73 a very aptly named design I remember it was a handfull even in my lean/mean days.
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Re: Lutin
Brooksey
I tend to agree with you...however it will all depend on the tape measure.
The other possibility... around the late 1960s to mid 1970s, there was an explosion in the 'beach boat' genre - so many designs, some worked, some didn't
we'll find it - but only when we know what the real size of the beast is
D
I tend to agree with you...however it will all depend on the tape measure.
The other possibility... around the late 1960s to mid 1970s, there was an explosion in the 'beach boat' genre - so many designs, some worked, some didn't
we'll find it - but only when we know what the real size of the beast is
D
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Re: Lutin
Hi
Not an Imperial and certainly not a Voodoo which was arounded scow eg . no chines. The Imperial was fast on a reach in a blow and could certainly whole its own against a Contender and on a two sail reach for a Fireball was just as fast. I still feel the boat is a one off and was the pride and joy of an amatuer designer. Prim fodder for the lost classes division.
Cheers Al Finn424 etc.
Not an Imperial and certainly not a Voodoo which was arounded scow eg . no chines. The Imperial was fast on a reach in a blow and could certainly whole its own against a Contender and on a two sail reach for a Fireball was just as fast. I still feel the boat is a one off and was the pride and joy of an amatuer designer. Prim fodder for the lost classes division.
Cheers Al Finn424 etc.