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Bonito

Post by Nessa » Thu Jun 11, 2009 7:25 pm

I had been feeling down for a while but didn't know why...... :cry: then I realised....I wasn't bidding on anything!

A quick trawl on ebay has brought up this gem, and just down the road too!

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/sailing-dinghy_W0 ... 5|294%3A50

Surely a lost class? So should I or shouldn't I? Vices and virtues or the Bonito please gentlemen!

Lots of photos of similar here:

http://www.pedleyonline.com/photos/phot ... ongest=130
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Re: Bonito

Post by Nigel » Thu Jun 11, 2009 7:49 pm

Hi Nessa,

According to Burrett, the blue & white ones were later than the red & white. Burrett gives a PY 0f 104 so not superfast (roughly UK modern PY 1180).

Looking at some US PYs I have a record of they do not do well at all over there. US PY of 122.3 vs. a US Laser PY of 91.1 (My maths equates this to a new money UK PY of 1447.

I understand that they have a huge amount of buoyancy but also a large wetted area. There were some postings on here a year or two ago when another came up on eBay.

At £150, you will always get your money back. My experience on ebay is that photos of the boat actually being sailed roughly doubles its selling price. PM me if you want my selling strategy. :shock:

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Re: Bonito

Post by Rupert » Thu Jun 11, 2009 8:26 pm

Funny, I was talking about them in the pub last night. Massively heavy with loads of wetted surface made them slow and hard to sail, apparantly, from someone who had used them in the 70's. Not a patch on the Laser, apparantly...boo hiss...
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Re: Bonito

Post by Nessa » Fri Jun 12, 2009 9:31 am

Blimey! It literally is just down the road - it's actually right here in my village! :shock: I am off to have a look this afternoon. Don't know that I hold out much hope of a purchase - she is coming with me! :lol:
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Re: Bonito

Post by Michael Brigg » Fri Jun 12, 2009 1:59 pm

when she gets back from setting fire to girl guides.
bonito is good on a BBQ as well! :twisted:
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Re: Bonito

Post by Ancient Geek » Fri Jun 12, 2009 2:56 pm

Doctor, what about the dioxins from burning the resin?
Simples.

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Re: Bonito

Post by Michael Brigg » Fri Jun 12, 2009 3:31 pm

Tish and Pish.

I thought the real hazard with high food chain fish is the Mercury content. Not to mention another nice condition called "Scromboidism"
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Re: Bonito

Post by Ancient Geek » Fri Jun 12, 2009 3:41 pm

I rather meant the fects of burning Gee Ah pee on a BBQ?
Scromboisism looks V nasty indeed I shall remain a pink fish eater!
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Re: Bonito

Post by Nessa » Sun Jun 14, 2009 11:25 pm

We did stroll down and look at this (about 1000m along the road, no more) but I have to say it did not impress with its good looks. Interestingly the seller clearly thought we liked it more than he wanted us to, and promptly removed the £225 buy it now option. He need not have troubled himself; I have bid the starting price, but wouldn't pay any more than that. It is a very ugly boat, but would be useful for a while. It really isn't that heavy, but I think it must be a modified version, because it doesn't look much like the ones in the photos I found. It has a dagger board for a start, then other refinements such as a kicker and cunningham. Still no outhaul though, with the boom threading into the foot of the sail, much like the sail threads over the mast.
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Re: Bonito

Post by Nigel » Mon Jun 15, 2009 5:03 pm

Hi Nessa,

the "buy it now" seems to disappear as soon as someone makes a bid.

Burret indicates a daggerboard as standard.

Good luck with it :)

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Re: Bonito

Post by Nessa » Tue Jun 16, 2009 4:13 pm

Well, we won it and strangely I am not wearing my screen as a necklace, which means either she has given up or she has accepted the wisdom of this purchase, since it is intended for her to learn in. If it turns out to be rubbish I shall be in touch with you Nigel regarding your foolproof sales method. You clearly didn't disclose it to the seller of this one!
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Re: Bonito

Post by DavidC » Tue Jun 16, 2009 5:58 pm

I used to sail a Bonito back in the 70's at Clacton. Good fun from what I recall although I do accept one can look back .......

Can't remember what it was like against the 4 sail number lasers that were there although I do remember that they were uncomfortable to sail even then! :D

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Re: Bonito

Post by Nigel » Tue Jun 16, 2009 6:55 pm

Well done Nessa :) .

It is good to be able to point to someone who has more strange boats than I do (although I did sell off two of the motorbikes yesterday so I must be reforming).

Are you bringing it to Roadford? I will swap you a go in the Man o'war for a go in it.

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Re: Bonito

Post by Nessa » Wed Jun 17, 2009 1:02 pm

We are hoping to bring Agamemnon to Roadford, but if that fails it will be the Bonito and AN Other. A swap would be most entertaining - I was very tempted by a Man O War not that long ago.
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Re: Bonito

Post by Nessa » Thu Jun 18, 2009 9:56 am

Well, we took it out last night for a quick blast and apart from coming back minus the bottom half of the dagger board it went quite well bearing in mind we had no sail controls other than the 2:1 mainsheet (I have quite a tired arm today). The leech really does need some kind of control, so I am toying with the idea of fitting an aft sheeting system or a split tail sheet, oh, and a functional kicker might be useful too.

Goodness only knows what happened to the dagger board it is/was made of extremely thin ply - the slot is incredibly narrow - it was there when we left shore and not there when we got back - it sheared off level with where it exits under the boat!

Yet another woodwork project to keep me busy, but how can I get something that must be about 10mm thick to be strong enough?
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