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Torch Class

Post by katerick » Wed Sep 11, 2013 4:46 pm

I have recently purchased an old Torch class dinghy (Bert Keeble design) and have spent the summer renovating it. I am new to boating and wondered if anybody on here has any information relating to early Torch class. I have been told by the Jeckells sails that the sails are about 45 years old, but apart from a couple of pictures online I am drawing blanks each time I search.
Any help will be much appreciated.
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Re: Torch Class

Post by PeterV » Wed Sep 11, 2013 5:16 pm

You'll find information on this site if you search. The Torch was designed for schools to build and sail. The original boats were ply hulls and Gunter rigs, they later had grp hulls and Bermudan rigs. There used to be large fleets of them sailing at the schools regattas in Essex.
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Re: Torch Class

Post by iconic » Wed Sep 11, 2013 9:52 pm

....like buses.. .!
Yours looks a little different to mine deck and seatwise...what sail number is yours

pics of mine are in the boat maintainance section under transum traveller..my first dinghy too. ..search should throw up some info'.
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Re: Torch Class

Post by iconic » Wed Sep 11, 2013 10:01 pm

Being the shallow type i bought as i like their simple oldschool lines....mines grp and heavy but very solid....im sure to test the build quality being a rookie.

the portsmouth handicap is 1107 which i think seems a bit harsh but im not too clued up on these things

my sail number is 371 and i believe there were around 400 built?
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Re: Torch Class

Post by Rupert » Thu Sep 12, 2013 9:20 am

On the PY front, I think I read it was 117 in the old 3 figure system. This works out to about 1330 in the new, which would put it in the same ball park as Gulls, Herons, Mirrors and the like.
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Re: Torch Class

Post by iconic » Thu Sep 12, 2013 6:53 pm

Ya correct rupert....been a long week....i can say they weigh 250lbs...lardy old tubs!
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Re: Torch Class

Post by iconic » Thu Sep 12, 2013 6:59 pm

found this for GRP Torch

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Re: Torch Class

Post by iconic » Thu Sep 12, 2013 7:21 pm

my interior...no upfront sofas

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Re: Torch Class

Post by Brian E. Evans » Thu Sep 19, 2013 6:48 am

Back in the 1960s I did a national schools sailing association course in Cowes on the isle of Wight administered by Bert Keeble. One of the toys he had there was a cabin cruiser version of the Torch that I and several other instructor students sailed. Putting it mildly, it was even more "lardy" than the Torch.
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Re: Torch Class

Post by Hotspur » Thu Sep 19, 2013 4:27 pm

117? Is that the old, old 3-figure system? If it was the last 3-figure PY that would put it up there with National 12s, Enterprises etc. Mirrors, Gulls etc were in the 140s if I recall correctly.

There were a few GRP Torches at Ardleigh when I started sailing, along with Otters and round-bilge Gulls. My school (Tendring) had one which sat languishing outside for a long time until it was put on a bonfire - it went unmourned by the school's sailors. My memory of the Torches I came across was that they were very heavy for their size, probably very overbuilt with thick chopped-strand mat and buckets of polyester resin. Couldn't tell you how they sailed!
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Re: Torch Class

Post by Stephen Hawkins » Thu Sep 19, 2013 8:01 pm

Looks to have lasted better than the flimsy Lark I took to the dump recently

Perhaps there is something in the 'well made' type of boat. I bet she would make a great 'sea boat' like the old Bosuns

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Re: Torch Class

Post by JimC » Thu Sep 19, 2013 8:16 pm

Hotspur wrote:117? Is that the old, old 3-figure system? If it was the last 3-figure PY that would put it up there with National 12s, Enterprises etc.
They certainly weren't anywhere near Enterprises. At a guess that's 117 in the pre 1973 (and CVRDA) numbers, which is ~equivalent to 1325 in modern money.

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