Buss and Elston info please

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Re: Buss and Elston info please

Post by Rupert » Thu Jan 09, 2014 7:30 pm

Ed wrote:You might be right.....I wasn't suggesting the Merron was made here. To be honest, I can't remember. According to the ad below they were made in London.

This is the Merron: http://www.woodenships.co.uk/small-craft/merron-dinghy/

There used to be two in Bristol Harbour Dinghy Pound. I think they were sold by someone around the Bristol area.

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Post by Rupert » Thu Jan 09, 2014 7:32 pm

Michael4 wrote:While on the topic of moulded dinghies can anyone make a guess at this?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/131088577838? ... 1423.l2649

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Post by davidh » Thu Jan 09, 2014 7:48 pm

I wondered if it was an old Finn that had been put to other uses?

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Post by PeterV » Thu Jan 09, 2014 9:46 pm

I know about eBay tape measures but it looks much too short too. I think 12 ft might be right.
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Post by chris » Fri Jan 10, 2014 12:37 am

......so nobody knows anything about Buss and Elston then?

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Post by roger » Fri Jan 10, 2014 8:39 am

apparently not Chris :D
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Post by Ed » Fri Jan 10, 2014 1:27 pm

Someone who might know is Laurie Smart?

Ricki is not so far away from the Thames.... I am sure he would of known them, or at least about them.


Afraid I am not sure that I have any contact details for Laurie at the moment, but I am sure someone could pm them to you. Maybe as an ex-owner of Iska, you have his details anyway?

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Post by chris » Fri Jan 10, 2014 2:20 pm

Thanks Ed, I'll follow up.

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Post by JimC » Fri Jan 10, 2014 11:59 pm

PeterV wrote:I know about eBay tape measures but it looks much too short too. I think 12 ft might be right.
Might it be a shelled out and modified Firefly hull? although the keel looks odd.

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Re: Buss and Elston info please

Post by chris » Thu Jan 16, 2014 3:50 pm

I've found one reference that says that Buss and Elston marketed some boats under the name of Vee-Root Boats. Does this ring a bell with anyone?

The info comes from this old forum comment from several years ago :

An old friend rang yesterday, he's bought another project; a double diagonal(!) mahogany skinned electric canoe, made by Buss and Elston of Watford, marketed under the name "Vee Root" boats. It did have an electric motor, and there are some fittings, but he would like to find out what make of motor it could of been.

I've looked in my MB&Y, there are several small adds for Vee Root boats in the 1940's after the war, but no more details. The adds were for dinghies/sailing dinghies and the like but no canoes. (There is one internet add for such a sailing dinghy now). He's drawn blanks at the Watford Museum, but the IOW museum at Newport had a manufacturers brochure, unfortunately didn't give the information he wanted.

Anybody know any more about these?

For those that know him, its Nick Liddiard, quite a well known boatbuilder in The Thames Vintage Boat Club/Trad Rally circles, and around the Sunbury area.


Its interesting to see he mentions double diagonal skin, this is the same as my 14.

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Post by Tommyv » Sat Jan 18, 2014 1:04 pm

I have a film of Charles Curry, Uffa Fox,Chichester Smith at Itchenor preparing for a Fourteen Race pre war
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Post by Jon Rawson » Sat Jan 18, 2014 7:53 pm

Web page www.watfordmuseum.org.uk/links.html has a number of links to other sites such as the Watford and District Industrial History Society www.wadihs.org.uk Perhaps the museum or one of the other local groups might be well placed to assist if contacted?

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Post by chris » Sun Jan 26, 2014 4:38 pm

I've followed up some of these leads, thanks.
It seems they were not in existence long as records don't show them in 1940 or 1949 but there is a record of them in 1947 with an address.
Makes me wonder just how jack Holt got involved with them just after or during the war.

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Buss and Elston info please

Post by stuey_b3 » Fri Feb 08, 2019 1:24 pm

Hey hey.
I have a 12ft hot moulded double diagonal (Spruce / Mahogany) sailing dinghy built in or around the 1940's. She has the builders plate Buss & Eslton on her and the markings Vee-Root.

I have been reading up on Buss and Elston but cant seem to find out anything on them building 12's.

I was informed that she was built using similar tech to De Havillands Mosquito planes and Uffa Fox the Dinghy designer was mentioned as well.

I have had her in storage for the past 6 years and was suppose to be a restoration project witch has not materialised.
The lady I got her from had early stages of dementia so only snippets of info made it to me.

*Any info on these builds would be great.
*Is she a collectable?
*Would any one be interested in her as a restoration project? ( as I have no time or money to bring her back to life)

I will post some pictures this afternoon.

I look forward to hearing about her life and creators.
Many thanks
Stu.

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