National 12 - design?

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Hotspur
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National 12 - design?

Post by Hotspur » Fri Oct 31, 2014 7:43 pm

Interesting looking N12 on eBay. It's a four-planker, single floor. No mention of a sail number or a design on the page. The shape looks Mike Jackson-ish to me - a Cheshire Cat or perhaps a Tiger, with that tall stem and high foredeck but that radiused transom makes judging the shape of the stern a bit harder. The low rear tank is more a feature of 80s boats (Baggy and Crusader era) but might have been retro-fitted. Don't think it's a Final Chapter, I think they were a little wider at the mast.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/sailing-dingh ... 1317698523

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Re: National 12 - design?

Post by stuw » Fri Oct 31, 2014 7:49 pm

It's an amateur built Baggy Trousers designed by Rob Peebles, number N3434 I believe

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Re: National 12 - design?

Post by Hotspur » Fri Oct 31, 2014 9:05 pm

stuw wrote:It's an amateur built Baggy Trousers designed by Rob Peebles, number N3434 I believe
Thanks. Interesting, I could have sworn I could see another chine on the side on image. Bit late number for a Baggy isn't it? Mine was N3342, and that was lateish.
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Re: National 12 - design?

Post by angus » Sat Nov 01, 2014 10:45 pm

According to the hand book it is a baggy trousers, the last one built. But looking at the pictures it appears to have too many chines for a baggy and the transom looks rather chapterish to me. It was Amateur built so could well have been modified. The National 12 handbook says it is built out of a material other than wood!
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Re: National 12 - design?

Post by Dare Barry » Sun Nov 02, 2014 11:03 pm

This boat is N3424 which I built in 1997. It was the first Man O War design that I built, just to make it look different it had a curved transom, a lot of work but a bit of fun
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Re: National 12 - design?

Post by Hotspur » Mon Nov 03, 2014 2:10 am

Thanks Dare, now it makes sense! How many Men O'War were there?
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Re: National 12 - design?

Post by Dare Barry » Mon Nov 03, 2014 9:31 am

Over the years I think I have built about 15 Nat.12's. The last 8 being to my Man O War design, the latest is N3521.

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Re: National 12 - design?

Post by Hotspur » Mon Nov 10, 2014 8:09 pm

Is it based on the Chapter? What was the design philosophy? Did they go reasonably well?
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