help with boat ID

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Mungo
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help with boat ID

Post by Mungo » Thu Oct 08, 2015 9:55 pm

Can anyone help identify this boat? 14 ft, located in Canada (in case it's a weird colonial boat).

thanks

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Re: help with boat ID

Post by Rupert » Thu Oct 08, 2015 10:03 pm

Hi Mungo, any chance of a picture of the hull, so we can see the construction, please?

Of course, someone may simply say "its a so and so" and make that unnecessary!
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Re: help with boat ID

Post by Mungo » Thu Oct 08, 2015 10:11 pm

Hi Rupert

Seller says 1960 14ft classic boat, doesn't know what it is, doesn't have a mainsail. Aluminum mast, wood boom. That's all I have

one other view

thanks

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Re: help with boat ID

Post by realnutter » Thu Oct 08, 2015 10:23 pm

The stem surprised me! From the first two pics, I was expecting a scow!

She's very pretty, but not anything I recognise.....
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Re: help with boat ID

Post by realnutter » Thu Oct 08, 2015 10:27 pm

What evidence is there to how she was rigged? Screw holes for jib fairleads, etc?

There's quite a lot of bow in front of the mast, so she could easily have carried two sails, and the cockpit looks roomy enough for two - if a little narrow...
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Re: help with boat ID

Post by Michael4 » Thu Oct 08, 2015 10:35 pm

If she turns out to be glued clinker I think a Merlin. Just look at the shape of the foredeck.

If the hog number is 400 ish then I'm wrong 'cos I guess she would be ribbed. If that hog number is 1400 ish then it would be glued and fit with the '60s.

I think the boxing in of the side and after decks might have been done later?

So my uneducated guess is a Chippendale built Proctor Mk something...she looks wider than my MK VIII
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Re: help with boat ID

Post by roger » Fri Oct 09, 2015 7:46 am

She has the look of a scorpion about her, two man, hiking, high foredeck what appears to be a straightish stem and an aft deck.

Not sure about the deck stepped mast,

Very early one if it is.

On the other hand she seems to have a Holt look.

Have you got any pics of the hull outside at all.
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Re: help with boat ID

Post by Rupert » Fri Oct 09, 2015 7:57 am

That last shot suggests hard chine. I agree there is a certain scorpion look to her, but not quite right, especially with the stern tank.
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Re: help with boat ID

Post by sam mason » Fri Oct 09, 2015 8:30 am

Almost certainly a Scorpion. All the early boats had aft tanks
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Re: help with boat ID

Post by Rupert » Fri Oct 09, 2015 12:29 pm

I never knew that! Only ever seen them with long side tanks.
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Re: help with boat ID

Post by Mungo » Fri Oct 09, 2015 2:12 pm

Thanks everyone

from http://www.porthpeansc.co.uk/scorpion/scorpion.htm about scorpions

Image certainly the same boat

It's affordable, apparently complete except mainsail, but 3.5 hr drive to look at it... not sure I want to take it on as the jollyboat languishes in the garage. Love the curves on the aft tank

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Re: help with boat ID

Post by Michael4 » Fri Oct 09, 2015 3:45 pm

Weeeeeelll, I was way off the mark, Tesco's red might have had something to do with it. Apols.
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Re: help with boat ID

Post by Rupert » Fri Oct 09, 2015 7:10 pm

There is a great deal of hard chine narrow Merlin about the Scorp.
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Re: help with boat ID

Post by roger » Fri Oct 09, 2015 9:11 pm

The Scorpion and the Hornet have very similar look, just two foot difference in the length.
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Re: help with boat ID

Post by solentgal » Sat Nov 14, 2015 2:23 pm

100% a Scorpion.......the early ones had the beautiful dished after-deck/tank.....this one would have been registered around 1964/65 with the hull number of 401 if I'm reading it correctly from the pic. I've had a couple of these, one with aft tank, one without......my first ever race was as crew in a very early one with dished tank......fell in love with the shape then, very pretty boats.
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