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MR maybe? Is the bow vertical enough? There appears to be a number on the thwart....
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Do side thwarts mean W & C? Looks like 1226 but I haven't got a year book.
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1226 would make it a Wyche and Copock mkXII - if it were a MR... but does that c/board lock like it's metal? As far as I know metal plates are'nt allowed.
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think the last pic with the builder's plate gives it away.
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It is clearly a Merlin, but the centreboard looks familiar, too, from another class, but I can't think what.
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neil wrote:think the last pic with the builder's plate gives it away.
Does rather...!
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Much more likely a Proctor 11 (2) National 12 measured with the e bay elastic tape!
Wyche built the first glued clinker boats and this is likely the second or third tranches.
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That first shot makes it look longer than a 12, but other do look more dumpy, if that is the right word. I just assumed camera angles.
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I don't know whether this is entirely relevant , but the Wych and Coppock Proctor markV11 circa 1957 'Caprice, I owned, had rolled side decks, and as said a more upright looking bow, the latter characteristic in all Merlin Rockets, after the original Wizard ones like Kate and even Gentley which didn't?
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Although the original Uffa Fox Nationals were I believe designed for the Royal Harwich YC There aren't many in evidence on the Orwell now. A few 14s but again a few wide bodied 12s but few earlier types.
I can't say I know the nuances of the class, or that there was a National 11, presuming the tape measure anecdote, by Bill Connor, wasn't a Josh.
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If the number is 1226, it's not an N12... N12 1226 was designed by Charles Currey, and built by Chippendale...
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I've just blown up the picture, and it looks more like 1776... which is a Proctor Mk4A, built by W&C in 1955...

At that price I'm sorely tempted... My much more modern N12 is too tippy for me...
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I agree a Proctor mk 4a National 12 apart from anything else the side decks are far too narrow for a Merlin Rocket
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Looks like a N12 to me, except the angle does make it look longer I admit.

But forgetting that, it simply looks like a N, not a Merlin.

The plaque says it was a proctor design built by W&C.

I reckon the number is 1776, which would make it a Mark4a called Islay Mist, built by W&C.

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About 1970 I had N12 sail no. 400 ish, and that had a metal centrplate.
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