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Post by Garry R » Thu Mar 17, 2005 10:47 am

See

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? ... RK:MEWA:IT

These are 48" long x 12" wide and was wondering if they would do OK as buoyancy bags for my Merlin. They appear regularly from this seller and I have contacted a previous buyer who says they are a rubbery material with a cloth type of finish and seem pretty tough. There is room for them to go under the fore deck and stern deck ie two each side and therefore seem a prettty cheap option (the price is for 2).

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Post by Ed » Thu Mar 17, 2005 11:38 am

I think others might disagree....but personally I think they look just fine!

You will need some other straps as well as the two end ones.

I would make a canvas cover with 4 attached straps


If they come up again....I think I might be up for a few myself

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Post by Rupert » Thu Mar 17, 2005 9:06 pm

They look excellent. Does he make them himself? If so, do you think he could produce other shapes?
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Post by Ed » Fri Mar 18, 2005 1:04 am

These seem to be able to double up as boat rollers.

Boat rollers seem to have rather gone out of fashion now that every boat has a trolley....but it always amazes me how recently trolleys have been around. It was not that long ago that you stored your boat on the ground with a chock under it....and then moved it by getting 3 people to help you lift it....or you put in on rollers.

I have always liked the idea of sailing somewhere and then getting out and pulling out a couple of bags/rollers and using those to drag boat up the beach for a little rest and recoup....maybe with a pint or two....then back down the beach again and off.

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Post by stu » Fri Mar 18, 2005 9:45 am

That's what it's like for me now with the canoe. Pull a bit, rest, pull a bit, rest - no pints in between though.:twisted:

The bags sound a great idea for in-between races though, rather than leave it on the shoreline, floating, pull it up on the bags & then no need for a plethera (sp?) of trolleys on the shoreline!!
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Post by Garry R » Fri Mar 25, 2005 10:59 am

I came across these and wondered whether they would look good around buoyancy bags to protect them from roves and rivets and certainly might be easier than making up canvas bags.

http://www.fender-socks.co.uk/

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Post by Ian Malcolm » Fri Mar 25, 2005 2:17 pm

So you *WANT* to trap moisture between the bag and the hull?

I would rather put some time into smoothing the interior end on fastenings with a dob of epoxy.

Rather than fully enclosing the bag, has anyone consirered making up a canvas sheet to hold it into place and protect it where one comes into contact with it with eyelets round the edge so it can be laced into place?
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Post by Ed » Sat Mar 26, 2005 9:07 am

Ian,

yes, that is what I have done many times and what I was trying to recommend earlier in this thread. The covers are easy to make, hold the bag much better in place, keep the bag out of the UV and look great.

It is not an original idea....I have seen it done before....but I have no idea why it is not done more regularly. I don't think it traps any more moisture than just having the bags securely placed. In fact if you let a little air out...which of course we should all do anyway I think it is most probably better.

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Post by Ian Malcolm » Sat Mar 26, 2005 9:16 pm

The comments I made regarding trapping moisture were in response to the 'fender socks' suggestion. I considered covers over bags at one stage, but wound up strapping in two 8x24" fenders. (Stingo is fully tanked but needs a little extra buoyancy in the stern)
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Post by Garry R » Thu Apr 07, 2005 4:20 pm

The original posting about fenders/boat rollers is defunct as I managed to get the last two (dammit I really could have done with four) but came across this and thought that they may be OK. Should be on this page - 2 sizes.

http://www.force4.co.uk/acatalog/Online ... s_104.html

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Post by Andy MacLennan » Thu Apr 07, 2005 4:46 pm

Hey Garry - fancy finding you here (Andy from Abdn btw! - restored a Merlin last summer!)

See you've acquired another! Since chatting last I've rebuilt a '72 Solo which I'm racing regularly and she won last weekend! Also just bought a classic I14...she's a bit of a historic boat so had to have her!

How's the 'new' Merlin coming on?

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Post by Rupert » Thu Apr 07, 2005 7:18 pm

Good to hear another classic boat nut has found the cvrda...Those 70's I14's were the ones I grew up with, and managed to crew occasionally. Sounds like a great project, and I look forward to updates and pics, and maybe to see her out on the water one day.
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Post by Ed » Fri Apr 08, 2005 9:17 am

Yeah....I think I would of been better off with a '70s' I14 rather than my 1949 one.

what number is she?

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