Enterprise - again!!

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Re: Enterprise - again!!

Post by PeterV » Sun Dec 06, 2009 9:18 pm

It was a nice boat. I sold it before moving from Bristol and now I'm wondering if I should buy another! Very CVRDA elifgible, built 1974 and very competitive too. Certainly much easier to do well in than the Finn. Perhaps it should be on the handicap bandit thread!
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Re: Enterprise - again!!

Post by Garry R » Mon Dec 07, 2009 8:51 pm

On the Ent many of the brass screws have been put in very neatly with something like screw cups. The holes for the screws are recessed and then these little brass insets are put in before screwing the eg.thwarts in place. However a number are missing and it would look so much better if they were replaced. Anyone know where you can get them these days. I have to stress these are not the brassy screw cups that every hardware shop has in stock. They are about 1/4" in diameter, solid brass, fit flush into the timber and are countersunk to take the screwhead.

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Re: Enterprise - again!!

Post by Ancient Geek » Mon Dec 07, 2009 10:22 pm

There is an old fashioned undertaker in Petersfield who still makes his own coffins I'll try him next week.
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Re: Enterprise - again!!

Post by Garry R » Mon Dec 07, 2009 10:32 pm

Have been out to measure - it's a 3/8" diameter screw cup.

on ebay search "turned inset brass screw cups" and you'll see the type of thing I mean. Don't seem to be able to copy the link.

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Re: Enterprise - again!!

Post by Ancient Geek » Tue Dec 08, 2009 9:33 am

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Re: Enterprise - again!!

Post by Garry R » Wed Dec 16, 2009 10:53 am

Ok - now nearing the point where some covering up of the plywood is required but have never done painting of a dinghy before - always varnish. Do I seal the new ply and the back to wood hull with G4 or do you just start with a primer. It's going to be International paint - one pack polyurethane Squall Blue and I have the appropriate undercoat. It's the sealing of the wood I am concerned about.

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Re: Enterprise - again!!

Post by Ancient Geek » Wed Dec 16, 2009 11:06 am

It's not copybook but I was taught a couple of coats of varnish first, - first one well thinned - and then when rubbing down and you hit brown as it were you have not got back to bare wood, the paint always seems to cover better too. Hope its warmer for painting varnishing than it is where I am!
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Re: Enterprise - again!!

Post by Nessa » Wed Dec 16, 2009 11:41 am

For the Marauder I am thinking a couple of coats of Dulux weathershield primer, then the proprietary Blakes undercoat, then whichever Blakes top coat I got cheap on ebay.

It is not warm here in the Fens, but I doubt it is as cold as Denmark. Though surely all the hot air filled polticos rammed into Copenhagen are warming the climate a little?
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Re: Enterprise - again!!

Post by Nigel » Thu Dec 24, 2009 2:09 pm

Hi Garry,

if you are still looking for some plans see:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ENTERPRISE-SAILIN ... 3358a94dbf

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Re: Enterprise - again!!

Post by david r » Wed Dec 30, 2009 8:40 pm

Hi Garry
Welcome to Enterprise sailing
IMHO may I suggest that you seriously consider the following - (if not too late)
1) Move thwart back to central position otherwise crew will mutiny
2) Fit forward buoyancy tank (not bag) but ensure tank in rearmost position of the two - unless you want to become a submarine when full of water!
3) Fit two large hatches in forward tank
4) Fit largest possible transom flaps
5) Fit 2 extra large self bailers (elvstrom/andersen type)
6) Fit vertical jib cleats mounted on minimum m/ment from centreline they should overhang into cockpit, can build deck out to take track, jib cleats mounted flat on deck are a capsize waiting to happen - though vertical ones can lead to fist in helms face if released with big flick !
7) Cascade Kicker & c/ham best led aft each side to exit to a cleat on knee between seat slats ideally placed for helms front hand
8) Outhaul on boom for crew to adjust
9) Centreboard - rubber doorstops plus essential loop/strop from 25 or 50mm toestrap webbing
10) M/sheet track - fix in centre - no adjustment needed, boom should work on barn door principle with good kicker tension

All I can think of for now - do pm me if you require any help - I have sailed ents on/off for 40 yrs
Used to sail - 2001/15938/18958/20746
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Re: Enterprise - again!!

Post by Ancient Geek » Wed Dec 30, 2009 9:52 pm

David from memory - we had E150 & E2086 that is excellent advice, it was only when Jack (He was never able to accept it possible he was less than perfect as a designer.) sold the copyright that the thwart got moved aft and the class became crewable! Still great boats.
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Re: Enterprise - again!!

Post by Pat » Thu Dec 31, 2009 9:20 am

David's comments about submarines reminded me of the Shearwater 2004 event when I capured Jon Rawson's Ent capsizing at the gybe mark, recovering, sailing off downwind and then susequently submarining until only the mast and sails were visible above water - still sailing along and the crew still bailing :lol:
Video is too big to upload though.

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Re: Enterprise - again!!

Post by Garry R » Wed Jan 27, 2010 9:46 am

Ent now G4'ed and ready for the fiddly bits!!
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Re: Enterprise - again!!

Post by Garry R » Wed Jan 27, 2010 9:51 am

G4 is a Godsend in snowy weather!! Picture of my house 2 weeks ago!! G4 still cured OK!!!!
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Re: Enterprise - again!!

Post by Nessa » Wed Jan 27, 2010 10:09 am

O how I envy that state of preparedness!
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