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Yer tiz
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ent 2426 hog & keel

Post by Yer tiz » Fri Dec 23, 2016 11:38 pm

Hello I am restoring a 1958 ent and are currently replacing the hog and keel, my question; is mahogany the best timber to use or is there something similar but stronger/lighter? Many thanks.

Plus is there a maximum width for these two elements?

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Re: ent 2426 hog & keel

Post by sam mason » Sat Dec 24, 2016 8:53 am

Measure the ones you take out and go back at the same size or nothing will fit properly. The hog has a taper in it and it is important you get it in the right place. The keel measurements are covered by the rules available from the Enterprise Association or on the measurement form if it is on line.

Timber. With a boat that age weight saving should not be a major consideration. Most of the weight in Ents is down to the choice of ply used in the original build so no really significant saving can be made. If you cant get decent mahogany without selling the house Douglas Fir AKA Columbian Pine is durable , about the same density as Brazilian Mahogany, and readily available. African Cedar looks like mahogany but weighs very little. It smells nice too! Available in trade quantities from Sykes Timber at Atherstone. 1 cu ft should about do the job (24ft of 6x1 or thereabouts)
Good luck
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Re: ent 2426 hog & keel

Post by Yer tiz » Sat Dec 24, 2016 7:50 pm

Thanks for your quick response. I was just checking, as the width of my ent' s hog measures around 11cm. I did a quick survey of ent's in our clubs dinghy park and the widest was 13cm most being 12 cm's. I have mailed the tech person from the ent association for his advice.

Sound like the cedar could be a good option.

Many thanks

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Re: ent 2426 hog & keel

Post by Yer tiz » Thu Jan 05, 2017 4:26 pm

speaking with my local timber merchant he is suggesting Sapele as a mahogany replacement, I would welcome any thoughts on using this for the hog & keel replacement.

many thanks in advance

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Re: ent 2426 hog & keel

Post by sam mason » Thu Jan 05, 2017 8:58 pm

Looks nice BUT weighs tons , hard as hell, difficult to work, complex grain making planning up more difficult than it should be and doesn't always take glue as well as it might and the good stuff if horrifically expensive. Utile is only slightly better but always takes the glue
Do bare in mind that if you buy rough sawn timber you will have quite a high waste ratio.
Sam

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Re: ent 2426 hog & keel

Post by Rupert » Sat Jan 07, 2017 10:39 pm

Khaya is also a subsitute. The darker than is the more for resistant. Also prone to tear out, but not to the same extent. Won't be light, though.

The sustainability of all these woods worries me, though. Iroko, for instance, can be 500 years old.
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Re: ent 2426 hog & keel

Post by jpa_wfsc » Thu Jan 12, 2017 9:11 pm

Would a laminated marine ply hog be stronger and more durable, and less heavy?

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Re: ent 2426 hog & keel

Post by sam mason » Fri Jan 13, 2017 8:46 am

I have never heard of that being done. An Enterprise hog is in the order of 12 feet long . Ply is 8 feet therefore would need to be scarfed at some point and would leave a lot of exposed end grain. I certainly wouldn't even consider it
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