XMAS Quiz de-brief
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<br />Hi,
some remarks to the questions:
1) Boat recognition: 14ft clinker Boat: We have a german class called B-Jolle (see http://www.yachtsportarchiv.de/yachten/ ... jolle.html) that fits nearly all your requirements and was build from 1907 with more than 800 boats.
2) The class regulations for an int 12ft and int 14ft from 1930 can be found at:
http://www.fky.org/prestodata/documents ... gi-klassen
(in one line) - sorry to say they are in german
3) Speed-record: In 1937 the famous german constructor Reinhard Drewitz sailed with his 20sqm-dinghy "Agra" (http://www.fky.org/prestodata/documents ... ment=pyc11) an average speed of 50,5 km/h = 27 kn over one kilometer. The full article is available at
http://www.fky.org/prestodata/search.ph ... nguage=eng
(search for Volume 1 of 1952 and read page 16 - sorry, in german again)
Ingo
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Hi Ingo
Many thanks for these links, I have now spent several hours exploring the sites - just wish Google did a better job of translation but the boats are great
<br />Hi,
some remarks to the questions:
1) Boat recognition: 14ft clinker Boat: We have a german class called B-Jolle (see http://www.yachtsportarchiv.de/yachten/ ... jolle.html) that fits nearly all your requirements and was build from 1907 with more than 800 boats.
2) The class regulations for an int 12ft and int 14ft from 1930 can be found at:
http://www.fky.org/prestodata/documents ... gi-klassen
(in one line) - sorry to say they are in german
3) Speed-record: In 1937 the famous german constructor Reinhard Drewitz sailed with his 20sqm-dinghy "Agra" (http://www.fky.org/prestodata/documents ... ment=pyc11) an average speed of 50,5 km/h = 27 kn over one kilometer. The full article is available at
http://www.fky.org/prestodata/search.ph ... nguage=eng
(search for Volume 1 of 1952 and read page 16 - sorry, in german again)
Ingo
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Hi Ingo
Many thanks for these links, I have now spent several hours exploring the sites - just wish Google did a better job of translation but the boats are great
Yes, Google's translations If you need anything special translated, i can do it for you. We discussed several possibilities of how we can help english speaking sailers to use our archive. Especially all the scanned pages of the german "yacht"-magazine (can be searched from 1904 to 1959 at http://www.fky.org/prestodata/search.ph ... nguage=eng) are only shown as an image since we do not want to display any OCR errors. Nevertheless we have of course all the recognised text in simple ASCII-Files. They were used to build up the fulltext-index in the MySQL-database. We thought of providing them for download but they are sometimes verry ugly. If it helps you, i can send you a copy of the files on CD. Google can translate them - bad but better than nothing.
woosh - well that went over my head. Over to you Neil?
Great archive and pictures Ingo, thanks.
Great archive and pictures Ingo, thanks.
The only canoe sailor in MY village too !
OK K1958
Mirror 34459
http://www.stuandliz.co.uk
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make bow waves not chat
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OK K1958
Mirror 34459
http://www.stuandliz.co.uk
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make bow waves not chat
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Meulan: It's not the name of the boat, but the french town (25 km from Paris at the Seine) where the races in 1924 took place. Scandinavian 6mR and 8mR refused to sail there (just a narrow river with many trees), so they sailed in le Havre and only the dinghies in Meulan. And in fact they had no wind and mostly drifted with the stream...
There was a discussion which boat they should use. Everybody wanted to use the int 12ft again (linke in 1920), but the french wanted to use their own 5m-long class. Since no other country had them, the french provided the boats.
The french dinghy is from 1922, 5m * 2m, 0.6 tons, sloop-rigged, mainsail 15.77 sqm, jib 4.4 sqm, spi 10 sqm. Perfect single-handed boat
"international Olympia (Nürnberg)" - well i don't know if anyone ever looked on a map where Nürnberg is... In fact it's called Olympia-Jolle or just O-Jolle. Nothing to do with Nürnberg at all.
Snowbird: I found just the name "Monotype" for it. Ok, if you call a german dinghy "Nürnberg", we have the right for it. This make searching a little complicated, but i will find out more facts and post them later.
There was a discussion which boat they should use. Everybody wanted to use the int 12ft again (linke in 1920), but the french wanted to use their own 5m-long class. Since no other country had them, the french provided the boats.
The french dinghy is from 1922, 5m * 2m, 0.6 tons, sloop-rigged, mainsail 15.77 sqm, jib 4.4 sqm, spi 10 sqm. Perfect single-handed boat
"international Olympia (Nürnberg)" - well i don't know if anyone ever looked on a map where Nürnberg is... In fact it's called Olympia-Jolle or just O-Jolle. Nothing to do with Nürnberg at all.
Snowbird: I found just the name "Monotype" for it. Ok, if you call a german dinghy "Nürnberg", we have the right for it. This make searching a little complicated, but i will find out more facts and post them later.
Snowbird: Look at http://www.dngoodchild.com/5840.htm
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<br />http://www.david.chesworth.btinternet.co.uk/Inter12.htm
A couple of pics and details. Also, according to Sutton SC website, there are still a couple sailed there.
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Please note that the above site is a complete copy of the original dinghydata site at http://uk.geocities.com/dinghydata/index.htm!
OK, he has made a few edits (mostly mis-spelt), and added a couple of boats.
<br />http://www.david.chesworth.btinternet.co.uk/Inter12.htm
A couple of pics and details. Also, according to Sutton SC website, there are still a couple sailed there.
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Please note that the above site is a complete copy of the original dinghydata site at http://uk.geocities.com/dinghydata/index.htm!
OK, he has made a few edits (mostly mis-spelt), and added a couple of boats.
Max marks was 60.
This included an extra mark for speed as well as method of recording for Jollyboat speed
One mark for every other question....and one mark each for all the 'little known classes'
I think....
eib
This included an extra mark for speed as well as method of recording for Jollyboat speed
One mark for every other question....and one mark each for all the 'little known classes'
I think....
eib
Ed Bremner
CVRDA
Jollyboat J3
Firefly F2942
IC GBR314 ex S51 - 1970 Slurp
MR 638 - Please come and take it away
Phelps Scull
Bathurst Whiff - looking for someone to love it
CVRDA
Jollyboat J3
Firefly F2942
IC GBR314 ex S51 - 1970 Slurp
MR 638 - Please come and take it away
Phelps Scull
Bathurst Whiff - looking for someone to love it