XMAS Quiz de-brief

Post by **neil** » Mon Jan 03, 2005 11:44 pm

Ahhh that would explain it then. Slighty confused about this though (found on GBR sailing)
Olympic Monotype
1924 Meulan
1928 International 12 Foot Dinghy
1932 Snowbird
1936 International Olympia or NÃ¼rnberg
1948 Firefly

Anyone come across the Meulan or Snowbird?

Post by **neil** » Tue Jan 04, 2005 12:12 am

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Ingo
 Hi,

some remarks to the questions:

1) Boat recognition: 14ft clinker Boat: We have a german class called B-Jolle (see http://www.yachtsportarchiv.de/yachten/ ... jolle.html) that fits nearly all your requirements and was build from 1907 with more than 800 boats.

2) The class regulations for an int 12ft and int 14ft from 1930 can be found at:
http://www.fky.org/prestodata/documents ... gi-klassen
(in one line) - sorry to say they are in german

3) Speed-record: In 1937 the famous german constructor Reinhard Drewitz sailed with his 20sqm-dinghy "Agra" (http://www.fky.org/prestodata/documents ... ment=pyc11) an average speed of 50,5 km/h = 27 kn over one kilometer. The full article is available at
http://www.fky.org/prestodata/search.ph ... nguage=eng
(search for Volume 1 of 1952 and read page 16 - sorry, in german again)

Ingo

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Hi Ingo

Many thanks for these links, I have now spent several hours exploring the sites - just wish Google did a better job of translation but the boats are great

Ingo · Post by **Ingo** » Tue Jan 04, 2005 8:37 am

Yes, Google's translations

If you need anything special translated, i can do it for you. We discussed several possibilities of how we can help english speaking sailers to use our archive. Especially all the scanned pages of the german "yacht"-magazine (can be searched from 1904 to 1959 at http://www.fky.org/prestodata/search.ph ... nguage=eng) are only shown as an image since we do not want to display any OCR errors. Nevertheless we have of course all the recognised text in simple ASCII-Files. They were used to build up the fulltext-index in the MySQL-database. We thought of providing them for download but they are sometimes verry ugly. If it helps you, i can send you a copy of the files on CD. Google can translate them - bad but better than nothing.

Post by **stu** » Tue Jan 04, 2005 9:19 am

woosh - well that went over my head. Over to you Neil?

Great archive and pictures Ingo, thanks.

Ingo · Post by **Ingo** » Tue Jan 04, 2005 9:24 am

Meulan: It's not the name of the boat, but the french town (25 km from Paris at the Seine) where the races in 1924 took place. Scandinavian 6mR and 8mR refused to sail there (just a narrow river with many trees), so they sailed in le Havre and only the dinghies in Meulan. And in fact they had no wind and mostly drifted with the stream...
There was a discussion which boat they should use. Everybody wanted to use the int 12ft again (linke in 1920), but the french wanted to use their own 5m-long class. Since no other country had them, the french provided the boats.
The french dinghy is from 1922, 5m * 2m, 0.6 tons, sloop-rigged, mainsail 15.77 sqm, jib 4.4 sqm, spi 10 sqm. Perfect single-handed boat

"international Olympia (NÃ¼rnberg)" - well i don't know if anyone ever looked on a map where NÃ¼rnberg is... In fact it's called Olympia-Jolle or just O-Jolle. Nothing to do with NÃ¼rnberg at all.

Snowbird: I found just the name "Monotype" for it. Ok, if you call a german dinghy "NÃ¼rnberg", we have the right for it. This make searching a little complicated, but i will find out more facts and post them later.

Ingo · Post by **Ingo** » Tue Jan 04, 2005 11:01 am

Snowbird: Look at http://www.dngoodchild.com/5840.htm

Mary · Post by **Mary** » Tue Jan 04, 2005 11:25 am

Meulan, description of that olympic course - it could be Chippenham - 'just a narrow river with trees' See Rupets comments after he suffered several thousand tacks last September!!

Post by **Rupert** » Tue Jan 04, 2005 12:44 pm

Presumebly the snowbird style olympic monotype was from an olympics in the USA? I'd guess LA 1932?

Ingo · Post by **Ingo** » Tue Jan 04, 2005 1:57 pm

Yes, it was at the olympics in LA 1932

JohnK · Post by **JohnK** » Wed Jan 05, 2005 2:26 pm

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Rupert
 http://www.david.chesworth.btinternet.co.uk/Inter12.htm
A couple of pics and details. Also, according to Sutton SC website, there are still a couple sailed there.
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Please note that the above site is a complete copy of the original dinghydata site at http://uk.geocities.com/dinghydata/index.htm!

OK, he has made a few edits (mostly mis-spelt), and added a couple of boats.

Post by **Rupert** » Wed Jan 05, 2005 3:20 pm

By the way, Ed, how many marks was it possible to get on the quiz?

Post by Ed » Wed Jan 05, 2005 5:04 pm

Max marks was 60.

This included an extra mark for speed as well as method of recording for Jollyboat speed

One mark for every other question....and one mark each for all the 'little known classes'

I think....

eib