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Finn questions

Post by Nessa » Tue Aug 28, 2012 3:55 pm

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Not for me but for a finn sized friend at Hunts who is choosing between this a solo or a phantom. Any comments or advice?

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Re: Finn questions

Post by Jono » Tue Aug 28, 2012 4:23 pm

I sail an older wooden Phantom which I think is great for what it is.

The trouble with Phantoms is that if you've got a woody, you arent competitive at opens full stop. You also arent competitive at club level if you cant persuade the sailing committee to adopt an older handicap more suited to the wooden boats.

On the positive side, i think they sail well and you can get an extremely nice relatively new one for not much money (close to a £1000).

In summary, with the phantom it depends what you want to do with it and what money you have to spend on it. If you want to be competitive in the class or at a good racing standard club then you need plastic really which puts the price up.

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Re: Finn questions

Post by Ed » Wed Aug 29, 2012 12:07 am

The Finn on Apollo duck belongs to simon, who I just sold mine to...

not sure this really helps you much, but reckon it sounded a nice boat.

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Re: Finn questions

Post by Brookesy » Thu Aug 30, 2012 12:05 am

I am of unashamedly biased and would of course advise to go for the Finn. A Pearson like a classic Phantom will never be competitive in a modern fleet, but will give a good account for itself in the classic fleet which is one of the advantages we have with the Finns in that we sail alongside our modern counterparts and compete for our own classic awards at open meetings, even rubbing shoulders with the Olympians at our Nationals this year at Falmouth.

I would not knock the Solo or the Phantom both of which are excellent craft, but you will find that you will get a lot of boat for your money with the Finn, even if it does let you know how much boat you have when manoeuvring it on dry land.

I would suggest you try before you buy, Simon is not far away from you and I am sure will be happy to let you try the Pearson.
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Re: Finn questions

Post by Nessa » Fri Aug 31, 2012 7:50 pm

well, he bought it. Is it cvrda eligible? If so another home boat for next year's open.
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Re: Finn questions

Post by neil » Fri Aug 31, 2012 8:09 pm

The Pearson is definitely CVRDAble. It looks like Big Al's boat, only cleaner
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Re: Finn questions

Post by simonmossuk » Fri Aug 31, 2012 8:42 pm

I certainly hope he'll be happy with the boat, lots of work went into that one...., Although she seems to go very well in 30 knots of Breeze.
Spent a fair amount of today sorting the new (to me) one out for sailing on Sunday, and if anyone hears of a sorted all wood finn coming on the market I may be convincing a friend of mine to give the Finn a go!
starting to get into this classic Finn lark now, and big thumbs up to Rodney at suntouched for sorting out some secondhand Finn toys.

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Post by Nessa » Sun Sep 02, 2012 7:04 pm

Rob was out in it today - it looked great. I think he was really pleased with it albeit a tad exhausted!
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Re: Finn questions

Post by Michael Brigg » Sun Sep 02, 2012 11:06 pm

Brookesy wrote:I am of unashamedly biased and would of course advise to go for the Finn. A Pearson like a classic Phantom will never be competitive in a modern fleet, but will give a good account for itself in the classic fleet which is one of the advantages we have with the Finns in that we sail alongside our modern counterparts and compete for our own classic awards at open meetings, even rubbing shoulders with the Olympians at our Nationals this year at Falmouth.

I would not knock the Solo or the Phantom both of which are excellent craft, but you will find that you will get a lot of boat for your money with the Finn, even if it does let you know how much boat you have when manoeuvring it on dry land.

I would suggest you try before you buy, Simon is not far away from you and I am sure will be happy to let you try the Pearson.
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Re: Finn questions

Post by GAVinT » Sun Sep 02, 2012 11:19 pm

I was intrigued to read that Ben Ainslie had resurrected his old Finn from The National Maritime Museum it had been donated to, as he could not find a newer one as fast!
So maybe its not all about throwing cash at things to ensure success. A certain Dane and a Dutchman may also have helped things along too, but it all made it more intriguing to follow, from the comfort of my armchair! :mrgreen:

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Re: Finn questions

Post by JB9 » Mon Sep 03, 2012 12:01 pm

I attended a dinner a couple of weeks ago in honour of Ben Ainslie (Old Royal Naval College, Greenwich) and he mentioned that he had sailed in Rita. He and his coach has worked extensively on a new Finn but he was not 100% happy with it before the Olympics. His thinking was that if he was not performing as well as he thought he should in a new Finn he may blame the Finn but if he was sailing Rita he was confident the boat was performing. He also mentioned that a vast amount of time and money had gone into the new Finn.
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Re: Finn questions

Post by PeterV » Mon Sep 03, 2012 8:26 pm

Although lightweight construction is thought to be a big bonus in racing dinghies the weight of the Finn allows it to be built to last, which is why an old boat like the Pearson can still be well worth sorting out and putting a decent rig on. It's also why, although the modern Finns are ligher than the Classics, that they still have a very long competitive life. If Hunts allow Rob to sail on 1171 which is what Roadford use for Classic Finns he should find he's fairly competitive. At SHSC my handicap reverst to the standard unless I raise the point, but when I'm winning the handicap event sailing off 1060 it sems churlish to comment.
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Re: Finn questions

Post by Brookesy » Tue Sep 04, 2012 1:47 pm

We use 1071 at Roadford, as do a few other clubs, if we let him use 1171 he will be going far too fast.......
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Re: Finn questions

Post by alan williams » Mon Sep 10, 2012 11:26 am

Hi
The Shed's a Taylor. My Pearson was a mark 3a one of the last Pearson's made and came in Finn Finder colours red, white and gold as they were sponsored by Dunhill Fags. The boat 340 even had the Dunhill logo on it way before sponsorship and advertising was alloud.
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