The worst classic dinghy.

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Re: The worst classic dinghy.

Post by Rupert » Tue Oct 23, 2012 4:02 pm

Yep, we'd all be raving on about them.
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Re: The worst classic dinghy.

Post by chris » Tue Oct 23, 2012 6:03 pm

Obscured by clouds wrote:Never taken to the GP14. somehow 'Jeep' seems to sum them up to me. I know lots like them, but I cannot see the attraction.

having to PRO their championships one year settled it for me. never met such a snotty bunch either before or since. The Hornet crew were much much nicer.
I know a man with 1.5 Hornets and one GP where does that put him on the snotty scale?
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Re: The worst classic dinghy.

Post by roger » Tue Oct 23, 2012 6:27 pm

chris wrote:
Obscured by clouds wrote:Never taken to the GP14. somehow 'Jeep' seems to sum them up to me. I know lots like them, but I cannot see the attraction.

having to PRO their championships one year settled it for me. never met such a snotty bunch either before or since. The Hornet crew were much much nicer.
I know a man with 1.5 Hornets and one GP where does that put him on the snotty scale?
appologies to Roger!
No offence taken Chris.

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Re: The worst classic dinghy.

Post by Obscured by clouds » Tue Oct 23, 2012 6:47 pm

Hmmm I should have added some smilies to my comments on Jeep sailors !!
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Re: The worst classic dinghy.

Post by Rupert » Tue Oct 23, 2012 7:28 pm

I think that one of my problems with the GP 14 is that I'm short, and I find sitting out rather uncomfortable, and not very effective. I can't say I've sailed in a GP fleet, so can't comment on the snootyness! Not sure it would trickle down to ones held together with a lick and a prayer, anyway...

Watch out for Roger after he's done her up, though - his nose will be right in the air!
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Re: The worst classic dinghy.

Post by roger » Tue Oct 23, 2012 7:39 pm

with a nose as long as mine it will have snow on the top. :shock:
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Re: The worst classic dinghy.

Post by trebor » Tue Oct 23, 2012 7:44 pm

apologies for being a bit dim, did not get CVR MDMA?
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Re: The worst classic dinghy.

Post by Michael Brigg » Tue Oct 23, 2012 10:44 pm

trebor wrote:apologies for being a bit dim, did not get CVR MDMA?
A play on Rupert's imagined future CVRMDA, (Classic Vintage Roto-Moulded Dinghy Assotiation (as if!)

Adding an "M" to the acronym make MDMA, the abbreviated Chemical name for what they use in Raves. Hence the "Ecstatic" comments...

Sorry, Its a bit weak. I was feeling flippant. :roll:
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Re: The worst classic dinghy.

Post by davidh » Wed Oct 24, 2012 9:26 am

Oh dear.........I got the joke and thought it brill (what does that say about my thought processes??) and it gave me a hohoho moment. I then started along all sorts of parallel thoughts and was going to ask you Michael if in absence of other good woodworking terminology you'd care to comment on the use of the material to make joints (tenon, tongue and groove etc)! Think we should stop there!!

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Re: The worst classic dinghy.

Post by MartinH » Wed Oct 24, 2012 11:18 am

To get back on topic (mmm... Topic) I can't say I have ever sailed a "proper" classic dinghy that I would never sail again. However, I learnt to sail in a wooden Optimist in 1969/70 and even then it seemed old and cranky. Maybe it was me and not the boat but I once the wind got up enough to make sailing exciting I couldn't point to windward decently and found myself slowly disappearing downwind.
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Re: The worst classic dinghy.

Post by Nessa » Wed Oct 24, 2012 11:25 am

I couldn't stand sailing the Bonito for much the same reasons - no pointing, in fact hardly any progress to windward at all. her indoors loved it though, so did the lady who nhad it from her, so much so she's even replaced it with another newer one.
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Re: The worst classic dinghy.

Post by trebor » Wed Oct 24, 2012 6:22 pm

Thanks Michael for clearing up joke, did not know chemical symbols for ecstasy, never read news papers, never watch news, I should think people who use it probably do not know either and probably get on a high about that.
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Re: The worst classic dinghy.

Post by Hotspur » Wed Oct 24, 2012 9:24 pm

My old scout group had two boats called Ladybirds. I don't know old they were but they must have been at least 10 years old at the time and this was 20 years ago. They were dreadful, flat bottomed things built from half-inch thick chopped strand mat and with no side-decks. They were overweight, chronically undercanvassed, and had the hydrodynamics of furniture. Moreover, when they capsized, they had a tendency to sink. I had a suspicion they were actually novelty boat-shaped bathtubs.

My all time least-favourite classic is the Snipe. I crewed one once in a European Championship and found them to be nasty in most respects. The worst feature was the ingenious design of the foredeck and breakwater which was perfectly shaped to direct a constant stream of saltwater right into crew's eyes. When capsized, which due to the stupidly unstable hull form was fairly frequent, the steel daggerboard would fall out and the crew would have to dive under the hull, try not to get tangled in the mainsheet, and force the board back up the slot before drowning. The helmsman was abusive and offensive. Terrible boat.
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Re: The worst classic dinghy.

Post by MartinH » Thu Oct 25, 2012 7:23 pm

Hotspur wrote:My old scout group had two boats called Ladybirds. I don't know old they were but they must have been at least 10 years old at the time and this was 20 years ago. They were dreadful, flat bottomed things built from half-inch thick chopped strand mat and with no side-decks. They were overweight, chronically undercanvassed, and had the hydrodynamics of furniture. Moreover, when they capsized, they had a tendency to sink. I had a suspicion they were actually novelty boat-shaped bathtubs.
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you have just reminded me of the Coypus class which most of the Sea Scout Groups (except ours) around the Solent had in the 70s. Most would have been 10 to 20 years old even then. They were just as you describe the Ladybird. Designed for pulling, 2 oar or 4 oar, single or double banked, sailing or would take a Seagull 2HP. The jib was so small that it made little difference how you set it. The only difference from the Ladybird was they were round bilged. Details of the Coypu are in the database here: http://www.cvrda.org/wp-cvrda/?dinghydata=coypu
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Re: The worst classic dinghy.

Post by SoggyBadger » Thu Oct 25, 2012 7:49 pm

One of our local sailing clubs uses Coypus as training dinghies. I made some new sails for 4 of them a couple of seasons ago and was asked to increase the size of the jib. Apparently they sail much better now. The club's Commodore even claims to have got one planing on a windy day!
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