Down to one boat... each... plus a spare

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Spiderman
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Re: Down to one boat... each... plus a spare

Post by Spiderman » Wed Sep 28, 2016 11:40 pm

Yes a Javelin would be an interesting choice and they are nice looking boats. There is a small fleet of them at Southwold Sailing Club and they were always fairly popular in Norfolk as I recall. They are big powerful boats though and Whitefriars might be a bit too restricted?

A true classic that was only ever built in GRP would be a Typhoon assuming that you could find a reasonable one ore even one at all for that matter as I don't think that Chippendales built more than a handful. Dougal has one tucked away somewhere, but it has yet to make an appearance at an event. I would love to see one as I still have an original brochure and apart from the mustard yellow hull colour the boat in the brochure looks quite interesting and is a more manageable size than a Javelin.

What about a plastic Pegasus, there are still a few about and I still think that they are both good looking and reasonably challenging to sail. Definitely a classic by any definition and in the right hands has proved to be a potent weapon at CVRDA events!
Not quite as rare as a typhoon, but probably just as hard to find a good example.

Anyway, good luck making the right choice and then successfully finding one available.

By the way I am still amazed that you could bring yourself to part with "Minim", will the mini sail class survive without you?

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Ian M

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Re: Down to one boat... each... plus a spare

Post by Rupert » Thu Sep 29, 2016 7:49 am

She has gone to the home of a good sailor who is planning on joining in events.

The class does most of its sailing without me, and I certainly plan to stay in touch, and even borrow boats if possible, so I hope everything will carry on very happily!
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Re: Down to one boat... each... plus a spare

Post by Stephen Hawkins » Fri Sep 30, 2016 10:20 am

I must admit, what I fancy is, effectively, a symmetrically rigged Laser 2000.

Roomy, rugged, plastic, winter knock-about training boat.

Does a beast exist?

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Re: Down to one boat... each... plus a spare

Post by Rupert » Fri Sep 30, 2016 11:03 am

The RS quest, as sailed by Sea Cadets!

Or, older, dare I say the GP14...

Or take a look at the Leader.
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Re: Down to one boat... each... plus a spare

Post by JimC » Fri Sep 30, 2016 8:41 pm

Bosun, Kestrel spring to mind, If you want self draining (goosd for winter toes) it gets harder...

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Re: Down to one boat... each... plus a spare

Post by SoggyBadger » Sat Oct 01, 2016 7:04 pm

Wineglass?
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Re: Down to one boat... each... plus a spare

Post by Rupert » Sat Oct 01, 2016 9:07 pm

Nice looking boat, the Wineglass.

Might end up spending the winter sailing the junior group 420 and worry about boat ownership in the spring.

The Kirby 7 is glass, by the way, and is at Bourne End. Very tempted, but feeling too sensible right now. Who knows about tomorrow!
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Re: Down to one boat... each... plus a spare

Post by Stephen Hawkins » Mon Oct 03, 2016 7:37 am

Rupert,

I am quite curious with regard to the Kirby I14. However I have no idea what kind of animal it is - obviously a very different beast to the early boats. Got a picture of the cockpit?

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Re: Down to one boat... each... plus a spare

Post by Rupert » Mon Oct 03, 2016 8:02 am

Only the picture on Apollo Duck.
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Re: Down to one boat... each... plus a spare

Post by Chrisrjwood » Mon Oct 03, 2016 5:41 pm

Hi Steve, there are some photos of a Kirby VII on the Blakeney Sailing Club website, the light blue one

I have one myself, well built and strong, and by a good constructor.
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Uffa Fox I14 K500 Zeus
Fairey I14 Maelstrom K680
Jollyboat J325 Serendipity
Rouse I14 'Brown Trousers' K1094
Kirby 7 I14 Last Chance K1120
Penultimate I14 K1337
Pegasus 187 'Fan'
Uffa Fox I14 Nymph K524 (under restoration)

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Re: Down to one boat... each... plus a spare

Post by Rupert » Tue Oct 11, 2016 2:31 pm

Off to look at a Leader on Thursday. Liked the look of Dean's at Hunts. Thoughts on anything to look for?
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Re: Down to one boat... each... plus a spare

Post by Rupert » Thu Oct 13, 2016 2:29 pm

Leader now at Whitefriars!
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Re: Down to one boat... each... plus a spare

Post by alan williams » Thu Oct 13, 2016 2:54 pm

Good one.
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Re: Down to one boat... each... plus a spare

Post by JimC » Thu Oct 13, 2016 7:44 pm

I always thought the Leader was what you bought if you couldn't make up your mind between a GP14 and an Enterprise, but maybe I'm being unkind... What are its particular virtues?

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Re: Down to one boat... each... plus a spare

Post by jpa_wfsc » Thu Oct 13, 2016 9:18 pm

They are fast, vice free boats - the Enterprise is fast but a bit fraught downwind, the GP is not fast. So, theres your reason why to buy one! Also of course you have the spinnaker to play with - even if its not very big. In a sort of way, the Leader was the Comet Trio of its day - able to do most things well, but nothing especially brilliantly.

And despite feeling as big as a wayfarer to sail, they are banter weight in comparison, so handing ashore is a pleasure.

The GRP composite one I learned to sail in (so no bias there, then!!) was very flexible!!

Im sure Rupert will enjoy sailing it a lot. As will anyone else who gets a go....
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