Enterprise lack of pointing

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Re: Enterprise lack of pointing

Post by Michael Brigg » Sun Apr 30, 2017 8:24 pm

Hi Trebor,

I found this on the Selden website and thought of you!

http://www.sailboats.co.uk/media/datash ... _guide.pdf

(I was looking for one of those old adjustable goosenecks with a thumb screw.) Doesn't really need to jam as the goose neck will act as a sliding cunningham tensioner. It will allow me to use several different luff length mainsails.
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Re: Enterprise lack of pointing

Post by trebor » Sun Apr 30, 2017 8:51 pm

Thanks for this Michael,
I have two Masts for this boat, one with spreaders one without, I am at the moment using the one without spreaders.
The pointing inability was quite drastic, normally you can out point most boats, but last week, Comet's and a Mirror were easily outpointing us.
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Enterprise lack of pointing

Post by Petej » Mon May 01, 2017 12:08 pm

Hello Trebor

Short tiller :roll:

Mast without spreaders :cry:

Wonky rudder :(

You are cruising not racing sailing like this

To go faster you could ,

Keep the traveler centered on the transom , with leech tension from a cascade kicking strap

If the boom is anywhere near the quarters you are reaching not beating unless overpowered ( or really light )

Look up, is the top batten parallel to the boom ?

Sail with boom near center line of boat

Use a mast with spreaders ( and as above read tuning guides )

If the blades are plywood change them . There is a good epoxy coated centerboard on e bay by Tony Thresher at the moment ,also I think I saw good rudder

Dont sail with windward jib tell tales streaming aft all the time ( unless you need power to overcome a lop ) try keeping them flicking 45 degrees up and above horizontal all the time

Sit right forward with a long tiller ext. push crew into shrouds

Keep the boat bolt upright unless very light , or capsized

I have just bought an old Ent myself after years out of the class and surprised how well they go

Old Enterprises can be quite fast still , although they need to be about down to weight and with decent sails

Cheers

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Re: Enterprise lack of pointing

Post by trebor » Mon May 01, 2017 4:43 pm

Hi Pete,
I have two set up's for this boat, cruising and racing, I need to change the mast back to one with spreaders and make sure I use correct tiller, for certain, whole assembly of tiller and rudder needs looking at.
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Enterprise lack of pointing

Post by Petej » Mon May 01, 2017 5:36 pm

Just looked and there is a nice vintage racing Tony prior race rudder on E bay at the moment £ 45 , tiller and bag

I forgot to ask if you are using an old style rudder blade :oops: , if so , don t !

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Re: Enterprise lack of pointing

Post by trebor » Mon May 01, 2017 6:26 pm

That's the one I have, but not the cranked tiller, visually mine looks better, but blade loose in stock.
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Re: Enterprise lack of pointing

Post by suffolkmerlin » Tue May 02, 2017 3:09 pm

Message for Pete, hope you can bring your Classic Ent to Aldeburgh on 10/11th June, I'll be sailing E15667 Kid Curry

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