Bosham Classic Boat Revival

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Re: Bosham Classic Boat Revival

Post by JimC » Wed Sep 26, 2012 2:46 pm

davidh wrote:Certainly some of the boats that I saw would have gotten in to all sorts of problems in the conditions we had a few years back when the CVRDA Nationals were hosted at Netley,
This is a major problem for any sea based event, and its why I won't consider one. As soon as you put waves of any size in the mix then the peak loads on the rigging more or less double. As none of us really know the loads at which the structures on our boats will give out in their current state anyway, well... Lets not rub salt in my own wound...

Its also very much my experience that a boat is more likely than not to suffer further damage if she has been disabled and has to be towed in. My preference is to retreat to the nearest safe beach and take time to derig the boat thoroughly and prepare her for a tow, whilst the safety boat can resume patrol. Two and a half miles upwind with the jib flogging, for instance, is a recipe for trouble, so is towing back a boat full of water. I believe its rarely possible to prepare a boat well for a long tow on the water, especially as you usually feel under pressure to rush so as to free up the safety boat for its next task.

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Re: Bosham Classic Boat Revival

Post by SoggyBadger » Wed Sep 26, 2012 2:50 pm

davidh wrote:(I want a 60s boat so I can wear flares and a 'tie and dye' tee shirt)
I've got a 1960s boat but there's not a cat in hell's chance of me wearing school uniform :lol:
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Re: Bosham Classic Boat Revival

Post by Michael Brigg » Wed Sep 26, 2012 2:51 pm

SoggyBadger wrote:Not a nice experience Nessa. Adding in Pat's experience the previous year, they'll have to seriously raise their game before I'd consider going there. Hope the Kestrel's fixable.
While I think it is right to offer sympathy for damage, I think that without having been at the event it is not appropriate to make comment of this nature.

Nessa did experience some consequence from extreme weather, but the weather circumstances were extreme and we were all warned well in advance that conditions would be challenging, and that only those who were fully confident in their boats ability to withstand strong winds should venture out.

My own experience of the support boats was of great competency and faultless seamanship, and I would personally have no hesitaion in reccomending this event as a fine example of how to run a Classic event.

I feel the discusion that has been ongoing should cease at this point as the discussion of appropriate safety measures and support at a classic event is, as David has alluded in his well argued comments, more complex than simple Support facilities, and includes issues such as the nature, age and health of the participants, as well as the boats.

I am not usually on the side of political correctness, but we are presented here with a question of what the duties of unqualified, support volunteers are. They are no longer "Rescue boats" because that carries legal implications of equipment, competency and responsibility. If more is demanded from them there is a real danger that our sport will become unfeasable.

The phenomenal level of support at Bosham included numerous Shore assistants from thier cadet section, helping with trollies, Free accomodation for many travellers, as guests of members, a support boat on the course offering a "Comfort facility" (Sorry mod, an mericanism creeping in there :oops: ) and not one but several support boats. This is unprecedented in any other CVRDA supported event I have been to.

I shall try to distill all of the excitement into a report in the next few days. There is much adventure and incident to write about so please be patient, and please lets not judge this event any further until after the race officers have had their own opportunity to discuss it at the "Wash-up" meeting that I know they will have, bearing in mind my sincere hope for more of the same NEXT YEAR!!! :) :) :)

I would ask that we close this thread now and if neccessary continue discussion of Classic dinghy event safety management on another thread, without reference to specifics, and in a non confrontational open forum
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Re: Bosham Classic Boat Revival

Post by JB9 » Wed Sep 26, 2012 3:12 pm

I look forward to reading the report from the event but do not agree that the "discussion should cease". Those members who wish to comment should be free to do so, within reason of course, and within the boundaries set out elsewhere for posting.
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Re: Bosham Classic Boat Revival

Post by SoggyBadger » Wed Sep 26, 2012 4:54 pm

Michael Brigg wrote:While I think it is right to offer sympathy for damage, I think that without having been at the event it is not appropriate to make comment of this nature.
On the contrary, unless you're insinuating that Nessa and Pat are being less than honest about their experiences then my comment is totally appropriate and I stand by it.

Oh and BTW, don't patronise me. I'm not some wet-behind-the-ears novice. I've been sailing for over 40 years, most of that in high-performance dinghies such as Merlins and Ospreys. I worked professionally as a sailmaker for a few years too in my youth. I'm well aware of what it takes to put on an open event and that it's all done by volunteers. I've done enough of that in my time and still do even though I'm not a member of any sailing club. I've helped out on two open meeting for a local club this season. Why? Partly as a favour to an old friend who's a flag officer at that club (and values my experience) and partly just to give something back to the sport. I've spent more hours in their RIBs this year than I have in my own boat!
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Re: Bosham Classic Boat Revival

Post by roger » Wed Sep 26, 2012 5:06 pm

You all have valid points to make but please can we keep this civil

I think any more comments should be made to Bosham themselves so they can reply and take note for the future.

None of the moderators want to lock or edit the thread but please dont let it deteriorate into a slanging match.
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Re: Bosham Classic Boat Revival

Post by Michael Brigg » Wed Sep 26, 2012 8:21 pm

Thank you to Andrew for finding this first...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x5QqPIOy6t8
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Re: Bosham Classic Boat Revival

Post by Nessa » Thu Sep 27, 2012 7:58 pm

what happened to the video?

I enjoyed seeing it because it provided unmistakable proof that I CAN SAIL AGAIN! :lol:
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Re: Bosham Classic Boat Revival

Post by Ed » Thu Sep 27, 2012 8:01 pm

hopefully a newer and better version is on its way!

I really enjoyed the video, so hope it is back soon.

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Re: Bosham Classic Boat Revival

Post by chris » Sun Sep 30, 2012 3:47 pm

Ian, spiderman, I've been trying to get in touch with a pm to you, after our conversation at Bough Beech. If the message didn't get through can you let me know please.
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Re: Bosham Classic Boat Revival

Post by AndrewY » Mon Oct 01, 2012 10:07 am

Hi Guys

I trust you all got my email a day or so after the event with links to the SailTV video etc.

For some reason the location of the video was moved and you can now find it at:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4ddvd0 ... ature=plcp

Can I also remind people, that if you have any feedback & suggestions about the event, please feel free to email me: bsc.cloud at gmail.com
and we will bear this in mind in our washup meeting.

We are trying to secure a date for next year as soon as we can but we are negotiating a congested Chi Harbour programme with the various authorities to find a workable date. We will announce this as soon as we can so that you can get the date in your diaries for next year.

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Re: Bosham Classic Boat Revival

Post by Pat » Thu Oct 11, 2012 6:01 pm

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