Pre-war British Moth

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Godfrey
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Pre-war British Moth

Post by Godfrey » Thu Oct 10, 2013 5:33 pm

Not for sale, as worthless, but maybe interesting?
We have a British Moth (hull only) which is one of the first 20 built before the war. They didnt have the glue technology for marine ply as we know it, hence the hull skin is wide strip planked. The problem is there is no ID number marked, so no provenance /history with it. The Moth Assoc have made enquiries but to no avail.
We know its not numbers 1 or 2 as both destroyed, nor is it No6 which still exists albeit re-built. So that leaves 17 boats unaccounted for;- probably built by Webb Ltd of Leigh on Sea between 1933 and 1939. The only other clue was a Desborough SC burgee found inside when she was lifted from Turks Boatyard by the Thames, along with some other old crocks which may have been used by the movie industry.
However, it is taking up valuable storage space and I would like rid of it.
Just the hull is all you get, but this is the only example of its kind remaining.
Bonfire night approaches, but once its gone, its gone!
Any interest?
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Re: Pre-war British Moth

Post by imptoo » Wed Oct 30, 2013 7:57 pm

Any photos of the hull to document her before she goes to the bonfire?

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Re: Pre-war British Moth

Post by JimC » Wed Oct 30, 2013 9:12 pm

Seems a pity to burn her - no interest at all? What sort of condition?

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Re: Pre-war British Moth

Post by Godfrey » Thu Nov 07, 2013 5:01 pm

All we have is the un-decked shell.
Some of the joints have come un-glued as you might expect and part of the mahogany cb case is decayed and would want replacing. I'm not sure what the original decks would have been made from? The ply that came off is unlikely to be the original. Early BM documents refer to "masonite" deck panels, whatever that was...? She would have had duckboards to protect the floor in her day, like an old GP14 etc.
You could use epoxy to get the shell watertight again although not authentic of course.
Yes, I'll take some pics before I dump it.
It/she has actually made it past this years bonfire but there is always the garden waste bin waiting! With Merlin projects queued up, I am too busy to bother with it right now so still hoping somebody will throw a 'head-fit' and intervene!
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Re: Pre-war British Moth

Post by JimC » Thu Nov 07, 2013 5:05 pm

Where is the boat? I suppose it could get slung in the garage with the spare canoe planks on top of the Eleven Plus...

Masonite, as I understand it, is a sort of mildly damp resistant hardboard.

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Re: Pre-war British Moth

Post by Godfrey » Mon Nov 11, 2013 3:10 pm

Hi Jim. We are west Essex M25/M11 junction. Yes, a Moth does not take up that much room to store.

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Re: Pre-war British Moth

Post by JimC » Fri Nov 15, 2013 8:59 pm

Now in my garage waiting for a new owner.

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Re: Pre-war British Moth

Post by Michael Brigg » Sat Nov 16, 2013 12:14 am

Any chance of photos? :shock:
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Re: Pre-war British Moth

Post by roger » Sat Nov 16, 2013 9:30 am

JimC wrote:Now in my garage waiting for a new owner.
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Re: Pre-war British Moth

Post by JimC » Sat Nov 16, 2013 1:09 pm

Michael Brigg wrote:Any chance of photos?
Frankly no!
Its under an old board sail as a dust sheet, with a bunch of spare canoe and cherub sails sitting on top of that, and a bunch more Canoe spares between its trailer and the front of the garage, and then two road trailers jammed in in front of that.

Trust me it looks truly awful:
- gaping seams opened between the dried out planks, one broken plank (may have happened in transit:-(( ) and something like 50% of the last coat of paint having peeled off.
- a large chunk of centreboard case missing through rot, and various other crumbling bits.
- no decks and some missing deck support beams

I do think there's enough to be worth saving, but it would be a pretty drastic rebuild.

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Re: Pre-war British Moth

Post by JimC » Sun Jan 05, 2014 2:10 pm

I had an hour waiting for some glue to dry so wandered down to the garage and took some photos.

http://www.devboats.co.uk/AntiqueBritishMoth/

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Re: Pre-war British Moth

Post by Hotspur » Sun Jan 05, 2014 2:57 pm

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