Tormentor FD on the bay

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Tormentor FD on the bay

Post by Obscured by clouds » Sun Dec 07, 2014 9:41 pm

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for those who admired Julian's FD at Clywedog.............
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Re: Tormentor FD on the bay

Post by Julian » Wed Dec 10, 2014 5:17 pm

Hiya all

A fine antique, would be either

1. tidy me up and enjoy blasting about, reasonably cheap and great fun, with a limited lifespan (boat not sailors!), or

2. bonfire virtually everything except the hull shell and start again, milking blood for years to pay off Robbins timber and Pinnell and Bax for what would be a very major project.

If anyone in CVRDA decides on either of these paths to righteousness, I would be very happy to advise and support them.

Do love the ?novex? auto-ratchets for the genoa, I can remember them stopping working as soon as they were bought to within a mile of a sandy beach, the tufnol mainsheet jammer, the moss garden feature by the self bailer, and especially what appear to be halyard winches at the mast foot - does anyone have the archaeological training to fully explain them - looks like a square ended handle might have been involved?

Tony Lyall, elder of our tribe, has extensive records regarding the class, and would possibly be able to provide some history.

cheers from the top of the hill in Wales

Julian

PS the only sensible place to wetsand the foils is in the bath, Caution! its not recommended to try this if someone is using the bath, at least not with the coarser grade of paper.

PPS Our cats all behaved extremely badly when we tried to galvanise them, and they have catboxes, not their own trailer.

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Re: Tormentor FD on the bay

Post by chris » Wed Dec 10, 2014 7:14 pm

Roger.........?
and he knows all obout the halyard winches and has a handle to fit :lol:

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Re: Tormentor FD on the bay

Post by roger » Thu Dec 11, 2014 10:22 am

Having just inherited at least one more Planker Hornet I dont have room but have always loved the FD and its one of my one day boats.
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Re: Tormentor FD on the bay

Post by JimC » Thu Dec 11, 2014 8:40 pm

Julian wrote:PS the only sensible place to wetsand the foils is in the bath,
Disagree. I prefer sitting on the end of the clubhouse jetty on a hot summer's day, with an ice cream container of warm soapy water beside me and the whole lake to rinse the foil off.

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Re: Tormentor FD on the bay

Post by alan williams » Tue Dec 16, 2014 11:30 am

Hi The Shark has winches. Should the winch handles be lost an ordinary squared socketed door handle will work preferably one of the lever types. I have one I use as a spare.
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Re: Tormentor FD on the bay

Post by Michael Brigg » Fri Dec 19, 2014 12:05 pm

I have one of these halyard winches (and the handle) on my IC (Torment K102)

I presume in the days before dyneema and the like, a wire halyard was regarded as the best way of getting a virtually inelastic halyard, and a winch / drum would be the only effective way to tension (and tidy up the loose tail of) a wire halyard.

I will get some detailed pics up for you.
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Re: Tormentor FD on the bay

Post by alan williams » Fri Dec 19, 2014 2:59 pm

They also make the job of hoisting a heavy fully battened mainsail up a 32ft mast relatively easy.
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Re: Tormentor FD on the bay

Post by roger » Fri Dec 19, 2014 3:10 pm

Shoestring has these as well, the winch handle is a bit crucial, my father and I made a rather nice one. Crude but effective, A ratchet from a socket set fits as well if the original goes over board.
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Re: Tormentor FD on the bay

Post by Michael Brigg » Fri Jan 02, 2015 7:35 pm

The winch and handle ...

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Re: Tormentor FD on the bay

Post by Ed » Fri Jan 02, 2015 8:32 pm

With Fairey wooden masts, the winch is completely internal within the mast with the winch handle going through the wood side of the mast.

Some handles are like you show, but some of the Fairey ones were anodised aluminium.

Some had 1/2in square holes and others were smaller, maybe 3/8in.

Always found winches really easy to work with and gave easy adjustement on and off the water, but not with the obvious immediacy of a well set up cunningham.

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