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Changing sail numbers

Post by RDP » Fri Apr 20, 2012 10:04 am

Can anyone advise me of the best way to remove the old glue residue from secondhand sails when changing the sail numbers?

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Re: Changing sail numbers

Post by billytwiglet » Fri Apr 20, 2012 10:22 am

Starbright sail and canvas cleaner; does what it says on the tin.

or Pinnell and Bax sail number remover:-

http://www.pinbax.com/index.asp?selecti ... &cct=1&sc=

(presumably it only removes the residue, not the number!)
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Re: Changing sail numbers

Post by Rupert » Fri Apr 20, 2012 11:20 am

Also Evostik glue remover works well.
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Re: Changing sail numbers

Post by Fantasia » Fri Apr 20, 2012 12:49 pm

I have used acetone applied to the reverse side of the sail to soften the adhesive, peeled the numbers off and then a wipe with acetone to remove the residue.
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Re: Changing sail numbers

Post by Rupert » Fri Apr 20, 2012 1:07 pm

I've had problems with acetone simply spreading the glue, rather than removing it. Of course, it may be that different sail numbers have been fixed with different glues over the years.
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Re: Changing sail numbers

Post by billytwiglet » Fri Apr 20, 2012 1:31 pm

I think evo stik glue remover is acetone based. Sail number adhesive is probably spirit based, so white spirit would remove it.
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Re: Changing sail numbers

Post by Rupert » Fri Apr 20, 2012 5:05 pm

From what I remember it is Toluene (can't spell it) based, but it is a while since I read a can, and I know it got less potent a few years ago, I guess to meet with new regulations for glue sniffers...
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Re: Changing sail numbers

Post by Ed » Fri Apr 20, 2012 8:12 pm

lots of stuff on this in the archives....it has been well discussed.

My memory was that some things work for one person (or glue) and others in other situations.

I have used Acetone, which works well with some glues, but does seem to get everywhere......Cellulose thinners (which I think is Toluene), both of which are horrible to use.

For me the most effective and easiest to use is Benzene.....good old petrol.....but of course not from the pump, but in the form of 'clean-art' or 'lighter-fuel', which don't have the nasty smells and added car-stuff.

At the end, you still tend to have a big sticky patch, which can be removed best either by lots of warm soapy water....or just a sprinkle of talc, which may not work for ever, but is normally long enough for the stickyness to ware off.

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Re: Changing sail numbers

Post by neil » Fri Apr 20, 2012 9:55 pm

Having just removed a huge amount of stickers/graphics to go from

this
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to this
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I had to do a lot of research in removing sticky residue.

There were 5 different types of graphic, all using different adhesives.

Although using a hair dryer helped with some of the graphics to soften the glue there was a sticky mess left - especially all over the back door.

Having done this many times with sails I went through the usual suspects of solutions, mainly leaving a huge pile of bogey type material.

So, I found there's a complete industry in sticker residue remover products (of which I have a good supply) - I found that 'HG' Sticker Remover is very good - for £4 a single bottle did all the residue left on the Ambulance.

I'll dig an old sail out and try it and report back if it dissolves the sail, but can't see it being worse than using Petrol or Acetone.
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Re: Changing sail numbers

Post by Ed » Sat Apr 21, 2012 12:22 am

Gasp, shock, horror.....it will be the end of the CVRDA as we know it.....

Look, someone has posted a picture of a car....

I tell you, it is the thin end of the wedge...

It's all the fault of those damn landies in Norfolk...

I was a member of a sailing club once....and this is how it all started to go wrong...

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Re: Changing sail numbers

Post by momentum » Mon Apr 23, 2012 1:12 pm

Top Tips

- Peel the number off very slowly, usually the slower the rate of peel , the more the glue tends to stay on the number rather than remain on the sail.

- Acetone works well to remove the glue from the sail. Remember to use in a well ventilated area. Dab the acetone on with a paper towel and gently work the glue - side of thumb has often proved to be the most effective tool !

- Not tried it, but I’d suspect that Fantasias suggestion of applying to the reverse side could be well worth a go.
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Re: Changing sail numbers

Post by Rupert » Mon Apr 23, 2012 2:57 pm

momentum wrote:Top Tips

- Peel the number off very slowly,
Just normal cvrda speed of doing things will be fine, then...
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