Sail insignias I do not recognise

an area to discuss dinghy developments
MerlinMags
Posts: 35
Joined: Sat Mar 13, 2010 11:29 pm

Sail insignias I do not recognise

Post by MerlinMags »

Shame on me! I was donated some sails today, but cannot identify the insignias.

Image

One is a W with pointy ends, almost like a flaming torch, but with a strikethrough.
The other is a garden bird I reckon...

Come on then - start the clock - you all know these...?
Attachments
old_sails2.jpg
Old sail insignias
(41.02 KiB) Not downloaded yet
Nessa
Posts: 2290
Joined: Sat Sep 27, 2008 3:16 pm
Location: East Angular

Re: Sail insignias I do not recognise

Post by Nessa »

The W is a Vitress, the bird is annoying me because I know I have seen it somewhere...
The Peril
Agamemnon
Lovely little Cadet
OK 1954
Xena Warrior Princess
Finn 469
Laser 2
Wayfarer World
Er-Indoors
Posts: 12
Joined: Mon Mar 12, 2012 7:34 pm

Re: Sail insignias I do not recognise

Post by Er-Indoors »

Had to take the laptop up at midnight said she wouldn't be able to sleep without finding out the bird one.
Anyway it is not on here but a useful link: http://www.angelfire.com/jazz/cl16man/S ... 11905.html
and this PDF file http://www.msogphotosite.com/MSOG/pdfpage/mslogo.pdf
MerlinMags
Posts: 35
Joined: Sat Mar 13, 2010 11:29 pm

Re: Sail insignias I do not recognise

Post by MerlinMags »

Vitress? What an odd idea to use a W shape for a boat beginning with V.
I can't see an entry for Vitress on the CVRDA dinghy database - shocking! Neither does Google reveal anything useful. Truly a lost class then.

Could the bird be a bird of prey, not a garden bird? Can't be Kestrel/Falcon/Merlin/Osprey/Harrier/Hawk and I doubt Googling 'Hobby dinghy' or 'Kite sailing' will help. Like you, I am sure I have seen it before. The sails themselves are smaller than the set of Heron sails I got with them (and both blue).
Michael Brigg
Posts: 1663
Joined: Fri Jul 06, 2007 7:11 pm
Location: Gosport, UK

Re: Sail insignias I do not recognise

Post by Michael Brigg »

That bird looks like a Jackdaw or a raven to me. Is there such a dinghy?

The "W" is a bit of puzzle, but it seems to lead to "Bonwitco" boats in Devon.

There is a picture here of their "maker's Plate" with the same Logo.

http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x125 ... s004-1.jpg

Here is an Ad for a Bonwitco "With 14" Dinghy. Interestingly advertised with sails. (They make mostly Anglers outboargd dinghies I think.

http://www.broadlandboatsales.com/Bonwi ... 14%201.htm
Michael Brigg
Rupert
Posts: 6255
Joined: Thu Sep 16, 2004 8:40 pm
Location: Cotswold Water Park

Re: Sail insignias I do not recognise

Post by Rupert »

Looks like a blackbird to me...

I shall have a look at some books later when I finish work.
Rupert
Er-Indoors
Posts: 12
Joined: Mon Mar 12, 2012 7:34 pm

Re: Sail insignias I do not recognise

Post by Er-Indoors »

There is a cawing thing outside which made me also think raven (pic has small beak though?) and I looked up - only a Raven yacht, no pics. This was before I saw the Raven post!!
phil58490
Posts: 203
Joined: Wed Aug 08, 2012 1:23 pm
Location: Kellow, Looe, Cornwall

Re: Sail insignias I do not recognise

Post by phil58490 »

There is a picture and a few words about the Vitress in Percy Blandford's book 'Sailing dinghies of the world' published in 1973. Seems they are grp but appear to be clinker built, utility boats originating in Norway. Bermudan rigged with a sail area of 102 sq.ft. 4.72m by 1.67m (15'6" by 5'6") coincidentally the picture shows the boat with sail number 105!

Google as With Vitress gives some more pictures - the 'With' bit is the designers name!

http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=h ... w&dur=1771
Just across the Tamar in South East Cornwall

Solo 4928
Solo 3406
Hit 5 Sold
Nessa
Posts: 2290
Joined: Sat Sep 27, 2008 3:16 pm
Location: East Angular

Re: Sail insignias I do not recognise

Post by Nessa »

yes, I got the Vitress from my Blandford bible. That bird is really annoying me.
The Peril
Agamemnon
Lovely little Cadet
OK 1954
Xena Warrior Princess
Finn 469
Laser 2
Wayfarer World
JimC
Posts: 1721
Joined: Sun Oct 03, 2004 10:24 pm
Location: Surrey
Contact:

Re: Sail insignias I do not recognise

Post by JimC »

I am sure we've worked out what that rook or whatever it is before, but I've forgotten what...
clibb
Posts: 130
Joined: Fri Feb 15, 2008 8:46 pm

Re: Sail insignias I do not recognise

Post by clibb »

This bird is remarkably like the one that is in the middle of the Wivenhoe O D class insignia. That has slabs of colour round it, but the bird is the same.

Regards

Nick
MerlinMags
Posts: 35
Joined: Sat Mar 13, 2010 11:29 pm

Re: Sail insignias I do not recognise

Post by MerlinMags »

The Wivenhoe logo is a red flag with a very small blob of something in the middle I see.
Image
Looking at the boat, my sails are way smaller than that. They are smaller than a Heron's.
solentgal
Posts: 466
Joined: Thu Nov 11, 2010 9:01 pm
Location: twixt Chichester & Pompey

Re: Sail insignias I do not recognise

Post by solentgal »

We did have a boat with a bird on the sail on a thread a while ago......was it a Wren? Then one turned up on ebay the same.....can't remember exactly what the insignia looked like though....it was a small boat...(9ft?) so that would fit with the smaller-than-Heron sails too.
Sami.
roger
Posts: 3031
Joined: Mon Sep 20, 2004 12:08 pm
Location: Frome Somerset UK

Re: Sail insignias I do not recognise

Post by roger »

yes it was a wren and looked nothing like that
Hornet 191 Shoestring,
Hornet 595 Demon awaiting restoration
Hornet 610 Final Fling
Hornet 353
Pat
Posts: 2555
Joined: Mon Sep 27, 2004 1:42 pm
Location: West Wiltshire (Wessex)

Re: Sail insignias I do not recognise

Post by Pat »

It wasn't a Wren in the end (though we christened it that for want of a name) - it was a Wagtail, but not the Percy Blandford one, another design called a Wagtail. And a couple more of them turned up on the forum after that!
(Half Cut and What a Lark Removals Ltd)
Post Reply