My Kathryn and your Kathryn have already sailed in the Firefly, last year, and my Kathryn was not greatly impressed with here 'accommodation'. I remember her commenting on not liking sitting backwards.
Phil58490 comment on the little shelves for the jib fairlead is interesting. It looks like it also used to have lowers fitted. I could replace these with something a small crew could sit on. Although, really, I am going to have to make sure it is substantial enough for an adult.
It is interesting that the dual role of a thwart seems now to be a single role. I.e. to stop the sides of the boat from folding inwards - e.g. structural. No longer to sit on. Progress for you.
Storm in a tea-cup I know.
Cheers
Thingummyjig
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Steve Hawkins
1967 National 12 2383 "Sparkle"
1967 National 12 2383 "Sparkle"
Re: Thingummyjig
Builders just assume their boats are going to be sailed on the sea in a good breeze with crew on the side always, not on shifty little puddles in light winds. The Albacore thwart is really too far back and the main hold-up to restoring the wide Merlin is having to fit a thwart.
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I read that wrong first time, Pat, and thought you were being a little harsh on shi**y little puddles...
Rupert
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Dammed crews always think the thwart is there for sitting on. It is there to stop the boat folding up. The answer is quite simple you sit in front of the crew on the side deck, if the wind is too light then move into the boat and stand up. I used to sometimes end up standing on top of the centreboard case, causing much hilarity when I fell off.
Important to remember to move back before tacking or the resulting tangle also causes much hilarity and is not quick.
Important to remember to move back before tacking or the resulting tangle also causes much hilarity and is not quick.
N2153, N2969, Merlin Rocket 3484, Mini Sprint
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Another light air approach is for one to helm on starboard and the other on port. Then both stay up front..
j./
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National 12 "Spider" 2523
Finn K468 'Captain Scarlet'
British Moth, 630, early 60's 'Pisces'
!!!! Not CVRDA !!!!
Comet Trio - something always ready to sail.
Re: Thingummyjig
My daughter and a friend got some wins at Shearwater using that technique when sailing a Gull in very light winds several years ago. Probably the only time a Gull has won there.jpa_wfsc wrote:Another light air approach is for one to helm on starboard and the other on port. Then both stay up front..
Martin
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Grad 2146 FOR SALE
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in an National 12? yesStephen Hawkins wrote:Where is she supposed to sit? On the floor?
Just lost my crew.........
it is a dedicated racing boat , the thwart is there to brace the case not as a seat ...
if you want to have seats you buy a cruising or general purpose dinghy
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Which as I've said elsewhere is a big contribution to the demise of double-handers for racing. Crews know life has choices and you do not have to put up with discomfort.mph1977 wrote:in an National 12? yesStephen Hawkins wrote:Where is she supposed to sit? On the floor?
Just lost my crew.........
it is a dedicated racing boat , the thwart is there to brace the case not as a seat ...
if you want to have seats you buy a cruising or general purpose dinghy
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Pat,
You took the words right out of my mouth.
You have got to look after your crews.
Cheers
You took the words right out of my mouth.
You have got to look after your crews.
Cheers
Steve Hawkins
1967 National 12 2383 "Sparkle"
1967 National 12 2383 "Sparkle"